Need help with getting quality xvid encodes

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  • ghart999
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 9

    Need help with getting quality xvid encodes

    Hi all. First off I would be grateful for any help you fine folks are willing to offer. I am a Newbie here but I have read lots on here so far. I was wondering if you might be able to recommend some settings/options for encoding DVDs to xvid for playback on a 40" HDTV via xbox media center (XBMC). I plan on using AGK for encoding, but if this is not feature rich enough I would go with GK if need be.

    Basically I have a softmodded xbox with XBMC where I am streaming encoded movies to it for playback on an older Toshiba 40" RPTV widescreen HDTV.

    I am trying to determine what resolutions and bitrates I should be using for playback. Please note that playback is through an XBOX, not a PC if that matters. Here are some of my expectations.

    I would like an average 2hr movie to take up about 1000MB of space. I only need to copy the original movie. No menus/subtitles/or multiple audio tracks, etc. That said I would like to keep the 5.1 audio track with solid bitrate.

    I am having a hard time deciding what resolution and bitrate range to go with. From what I have read on here, 640x480 is optimal for 16x9 movies. That's fine. However I am puzzled, as it seems that for a widescreen/anamorphic movie that 640x480 is an incorrect ratio. Do I not need to worry and assume that AGK will pick the appropriate height when I fix the width at 640? For example if the movie is 2.35:1 and I fix the width at 640 will AGK set the height to 640/2.35 = 272? Would 640x272 be the correct resolution for a 2.35:1 DVD?

    So assuming I use 640 for resolution, what is the ballpark bitrate I will get if I keep the file size to 1000MB for 2 hours? And will this bitrate be sufficient? I know that I should be shooting for .2bbp or bbf. But I don't know how to calculate that. Sorry. If the bitrate is not good enough to fit in a 1000MB file, than what would be better, keep the lower bitrate and 640 resolution or reduce the resolution and maintain the appropriate bitrate? Or are they both too much of a compromise and must I increase file size above 1000MB?

    Lastly is audio bitrate. If I choose to maintain the 5.1 audio stream will this make a 1000MB file impossible if I also want decent resolution and video bitrate?

    Also if there any special settings or flags I should be setting in AGK, I would be grateful for that. I do plan on encoding the credits with lower res as taught in the AGK guide as it seems this will save me 40-50MB in size.

    What about 1-pass vs. 2-pass? It does not appear that AGK allows for such changes. In this case do I need to be using GK instead since it has so many more features?

    Again thank you so much and sorry for all the questions. But I plan on encoding my library of 500 DVDs once and I want to be sure I do it right the first time.

    Also I would be more than willing to paypal anyone $10 for a thorough response to my questions, as I would like to encourage some feedback.

    Gregg
  • anonymez
    Super Moderator
    • Mar 2004
    • 5525

    #2
    Welcome to the forum

    I am trying to determine what resolutions and bitrates I should be using for playback.
    XBMC supports up to 720p MPEG4 ASP (ie 1280x720 DivX or Xvid). Relevant link.

    From what I have read on here, 640x480 is optimal for 16x9 movies
    The optimal resolution would be the same as the source (or less, for cropping borders)-- 720x576 for PAL, 720x480 for NTSC. Resizing to a lower resolution is a bad choice for viewing on a large display.

    what is the ballpark bitrate I will get if I keep the file size to 1000MB for 2 hours?
    AutoGK has a bitrate calculator. For a 40" HD display, I would try to keep the bitrate say 1800kbps +

    If I choose to maintain the 5.1 audio stream will this make a 1000MB file impossible if I also want decent resolution and video bitrate?
    1GB for even a 90 minute film is really pushing it, but try it for yourself. If you like what you see, then keep doing it.

    What about 1-pass vs. 2-pass? It does not appear that AGK allows for such changes
    IIRC AutoGK does 2-pass, as it should.
    "What were the things in Gremlins called?" - Karl Pilkington

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    • ghart999
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 9

      #3
      Thank you very much. So it sounds like I need to stick with 720 as a width and let AGK scale the height based on the AR. But sticking with 720 and 1000MB file is unlikely.... OK. I will be willing to increase filesize to get my bitrate up to 1800+.

      What about audio bitrate. I am slightly confused on 5.1 audio and compressing it. Can I technically maintain the 5.1 audio stream and compress it to mp3 at say 192kbs? Or does that automatically downconvert it to 2.0 channel? I am hoping I don't have to maintain the full bitrate from the dvd in order to have 5.1 sound.

      Thank you again.

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      • anonymez
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2004
        • 5525

        #4
        You could encode the AC3 to 5.1 AAC (not sure if AutoGK does it), but I wouldn't bother.
        "What were the things in Gremlins called?" - Karl Pilkington

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        • ghart999
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2007
          • 9

          #5
          Thank you again.

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