Anyone Using Printable Disks? I Have A Problem...

[katzdvd]

I am Clear Spraying Gloss Patrica Nimocks Clear Acrylic Sealer on printed Cd's just as I always have, but I have run into a problem.
I am now getting a dull finish on the disk, & also a "fisheye" finish. I know that comes from a contaminated surface, but...

These are brand new (value wrapped) TY hub printables. I guess it is possible the could be contaminated from the factory. If so, I don't really know how I would go about cleaning the surface prior to printing/painting.

I am doing everything as before when I had success with this; warm room, no humidity, same spray technique. The only variable that is different is a different type of disc than I normally use. (The hub printable valuewrap TY's)
Any ideas/suggestions/solutions? This is really putting a damper on some Christmas audio projects I am working on...Looking for a quick solution!

Thanks, katz

[Chewy]

probably some sort of residue left over from the "hub printable" part

1. try a dry wipe first(old clean cotton cloth)
2. then test with solvents
mild soap/water or eyeglass cleaner

[katzdvd]

try a dry wipe first(old clean cotton cloth)

I usually always do that to remove any dust, which isn't a problem for me most of the time.

then test with solvents
mild soap/water or eyeglass cleaner

Do you have any experience w/ any particular solvent/cleaner?

Since the CD face is kinda "absorbable", I'm not sure what I can use that won't soak into the disc.

[Chewy]

gotta have some "tooth" to hold the ink?

mild soap/water and let air dry?

[katzdvd]

Will work on it. Very frustrating....Don't have time for this!

[petsbug]

Is it silver top you have problem with?

The varnish surface is so susceptible to liquid even finger moisture can damage it if you hold it long enough.

Try a double pass when printing. Just set 2 copies and reload just don't touch the cd so its on original alignment. I always do 2 pass when printing on Silver tops.

Or have you changed Ink lately? It might be the ink. Or the printer head. Do a deep cleaning on the printer.

[ipaulo]

Sorry to hear your troubles katz, I also use Patrica Nimocks but only on the premium line. Though I dought that would make a difference. The only thing I can think of is are you sure the can says glossy and not matte? But I've used both and they both look good. Are the blanks those water shield or the everest ones?

By the way Meritline has got a pretty good deal on the premium line right now beats SuperMediaStore by a dollar. $65.99 with free shipping to the continental U.S.

http://meritline.com/taiyo-yuden-8x-dvd-r-white-inkjet-printable.html

[katzdvd]

Yeah, I'm having major problems with this, that's for sure. I am using the Gloss finish. Still getting a bit of fisheye.
It is happening with 2 different brands of discs.

I didn't wash the discs as Chewy suggested, I'm kinda leaning towards an ink problem...I don't know...

The carts are the same as I've always used, no change there. Most of them are over 1/2 full, so I hate to pull them out & replace them all, but that is the only other thing I can think of, that there may be some sort of solvent/etc. in the ink that is causing the paint to not adhere properly.

I am wasting discs right & left trying to sort this thing out, I know that much!

[Chewy]

how long are you letting the ink cure before spraying?

[katzdvd]

how long are you letting the ink cure before spraying?

Same as i always have, usually a day or more. But it doesn't seem to make much difference; I just printed a couple discs about 6 hrs. ago, sprayed a 1/2 hr. ago, & got a very dull finish w/ a hint of fisheye...

[Chewy]

and you are sure it's not the spray can?

[katzdvd]

Bought 2 new cans of the Patrica Nimocks spray, & I also tried a Krylon Acrylic Craft spray, same result.

It almost has to be the discs or ink... Although the discs; One set is the TY, & the other is Ridata Pro Prem. quality. It would seem odd that it would be the discs in that case.

Only other option; Penguin related!

[Chewy]

I know with some of the new technology they use different drying agents(enviromentally friendly) and humidity might actually help a little

[katzdvd]

Update on this; I had some silver printables left over from earlier this year & I printed/painted them, all came out fine. It must be something new with the printable discs they are now producing. I also notice that I need to raise the quality setting on my printer with these new discs, i.e., lay down more ink in order to achieve the same level of print that I did with my older batches.

So what does this tell us, boys & girls? In my view, (since I believe in conspiracies)
I feel we are getting screwed once again by corporate America...
I am now forced to use more ink to achieve the same level that I prev. did on a lower setting. Also, I am thinking that they cheaped out on the "tooth" coating that they are putting on the discs now, since I can't seem to get anything other than fisheye & dull finishes on those, yet my stock leftover from a year ago has performed flawlessly from the start.

Maybe I should put this post in the "Rant" section!

Why do "they" always have to tamper with a "good" thing & screw it up.

[ipaulo]

Are you using an Epson printer? How does the test print look and when was the last time you did a head cleaning? Are there any broken lines in the test print? When ever I have problems I do these two things and it clears things up. Epson suggest to run the head cleaning three times but I only run it 2 times as it uses a lot of ink. And run it going through the control panel instead going through the task bar. At least this is what the Epson tech told me. Good luck

Why do they always have to tamper with a good thing and screw it up. Because it will save them a dime here and there that will go to the big shots and to the shareholders. Never mind the consumer that's the last of their worries. I wish corporations would revert back to the old days. Putting the customer first and not their pockets. After all without us they wouldn't be in business. Whatever happened to customer service. Just to name one, look at when you call a company. Press 1 for English, etc etc wait ten minutes then the phone hangs up.