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  • Chewy
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18971

    #16
    With windows xp, shrink, and the vast majority of today's apps,
    if only one app is active, only one of the dual chips will be working.
    The other will be doing squat,nada,zero.
    The x2/3800 at 2 ghz would be ~10% slower than a 3500(2.2Ghz).
    It's really a close call tho since amd is probably seeling the x2/3800
    at an artifically low price(to compete with Intel).
    I'd get the venus 3200, oc the heck out of it, and take the money saved
    and buy better memory, bigger hard drives, and a 2nd dvd burner.

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    • toomanycats
      Digital Video Expert
      Digital Video Expert
      • Apr 2005
      • 595

      #17
      Try This!

      Here's is a list of what I just put together:
      Case ATX $79.00
      Asus K8v se deluxe with Amd 3700 64 processor $229.00 After rebate
      Vantech power supply $69.99
      1.5 G Ram around $125.00
      160G hard drive $79.99
      Radeon X800 256 AGP Pro $179 refurbished w/3year warranty from ATI.com website.
      Aopen 16X DVD Burner $29.95 After rebate.
      Windows XP Home Edition is on Sale @ Tigerdirect.com. I would highly recommend Tigerdirect.com because of their customer support, competative pricing, technical knowledge. I have been purchasing from them for 12 years and they are rock solid. I purchased all this from them and made a computer far better than you could purchase whole. They have tutorials on their website on how to do this and will gladly support you. I can decrypt a full DVD with DVDShrink and DVD43 running in the backround in 13 minutes. I can burn a Full DVD in approx. 11 minutes.

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      • Chewy
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 18971

        #18
        "Asus K8v se deluxe with Amd 3700 64 processor $229.00 After rebate"
        real good deal
        "1.5 G Ram around $125.00"
        ????????? are you running dual channel and command rate 1T

        a good bench to see how the cpu/memory subsystem is working, take
        shrink and transcode a 6-7 gig 2 1/2 hr movie at ~65% compression and
        no da or aec. Rip the movie first with decrypter, and use 2 hard drives
        with shrink, only then you have eliminated all the other bottlenecks.

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        • mill
          Im Off To See The Wizard
          • Oct 2005
          • 1105

          #19
          two hard drives

          I seen somthing about useing two hard drives before when ripping, but i cant seem to find it now, its supposed to be faster right?
          Keep Plugin away

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          • Chewy
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 18971

            #20
            If you use dvdd to rip the movie to your hard drive, then use shrink to
            compress/transcode(make it smaller), it's faster and much less error prone
            if the source file(s) are on one hard drive and the output file(s) go on another
            hard drive, however ideally these drives do not share a cable.

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            • toomanycats
              Digital Video Expert
              Digital Video Expert
              • Apr 2005
              • 595

              #21
              I am running pc2700 ddr. I should have gone to something better but I tried to use ram from my older computer. I must admit don't kow what "command 1T is". I rip my DVD's to my Drive C: 160G, and transcode to drive G: 80G, which I believe does make the process quicker. The Drives are on separate cables. The Ram is a 1 gig stick and a 512M stick which leaves me room for one more as the board has 3 dimms slots.

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              • Chewy
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 18971

                #22
                download everest and post the overclock report(not screenshot)
                report wizard custom selection plain txt overclock only

                like so

                --------[ Overclock ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                CPU Properties:
                CPU Type AMD Athlon XP 2700+
                CPU Alias Thoroughbred-B
                CPU Stepping B0
                CPUID CPU Name AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2700+
                CPUID Revision 00000681h

                CPU Speed:
                CPU Clock 2158.82 MHz
                CPU Multiplier 13.0x
                CPU FSB 166.06 MHz
                Memory Bus 166.06 MHz

                CPU Cache:
                L1 Code Cache 64 KB
                L1 Data Cache 64 KB
                L2 Cache 256 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)

                Motherboard Properties:
                Motherboard ID 63-0100-000001-00101111-090704-KT880$0AAAA000_K7V880-4AA1
                Motherboard Name Soyo KT880 DRAGON 2 (5 PCI, 1 AGP Pro, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)

                Chipset Properties:
                Motherboard Chipset VIA Apollo KT880
                Memory Timings 2-2-2-6 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
                Command Rate (CR) 2T

                SPD Memory Modules:
                DIMM2 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 166 MHz)
                DIMM4 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM (2.0-2-2-5 @ 166 MHz)

                BIOS Properties:
                System BIOS Date 09/07/04
                Video BIOS Date 10/18/04
                DMI BIOS Version 080011

                Graphics Processor Properties:
                Video Adapter Asus V9400-X
                GPU Code Name NV18B (AGP 8x 10DE / 0185, Rev C1)
                GPU Clock 250 MHz
                Memory Clock 202 MHz

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                • mill
                  Im Off To See The Wizard
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1105

                  #23
                  thanks Chewy
                  Keep Plugin away

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                  • Chewy
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 18971

                    #24
                    ur welcome, hey this was all greek to me not that long ago,
                    stuff's getting real complicated quick.

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                    • mill
                      Im Off To See The Wizard
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1105

                      #25
                      If i dont plan on doing any gaming ,an sli motherboard, would that be a waste of money, mainly all i do is back up my movies? Stlll trying to decide. That motherboard mainly is to have to video cards for gaming or programs like photoshop am i right.
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                      • Chewy
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 18971

                        #26
                        Radeon X800 256 AGP Pro $179 refurbished w/3year warranty from ATI.com website.
                        80$ card would be good enough

                        stay with the mobo quoted

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                        • mill
                          Im Off To See The Wizard
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1105

                          #27
                          asus a8n-sli deluxe nforce49 or the one by toomanycats?
                          Keep Plugin away

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                          • Chewy
                            Super Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 18971

                            #28
                            Sorry, I can't keep track of different posters in the same thread.
                            Zimers
                            sli is expensive and good for gaming, you decide

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                            • mill
                              Im Off To See The Wizard
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 1105

                              #29
                              No problem ,yes the sli is very expensive.
                              Keep Plugin away

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                              • Chewy
                                Super Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 18971

                                #30
                                Originally Posted by mill
                                asus a8n-sli deluxe nforce49 or the one by toomanycats?


                                I like this one! but good memory is a must!

                                agp video is good enough for me

                                kinda like having some pci slots

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