RMA'd BenQ still hangs PC up -PC guru's pls help

[lemonyx]

Forgot what the brand is but it's a 500w 12v single rail, full 24pin w/ the extra 4 or 6 pin connector

Yes, dual Xeon's (like in the sig) bus speed is around 204hz and the multiplier is 14x just won't go over 3.1ghz bad stepping on the cpu's

Memory has been voltage modded, upped to 3.65v's

[Chewy]

wish there was another computer to check the benq in?

another check, if voltage rails show low values would be to disconnect all nonessential drives and
try the benq

Memory had been modded, voltage upped to 3.65v's

that's almost a 1 volt over

[lemonyx]

I can use my wife's - if she'll let me. I built my wife's as well and reading your beast used the same mobo and maybe even the same chip. Her's is oc'd by 10%

Chewy - the crazy thing is the NEC 3550a is plug n' play and the Benq is not

yep- stock is 2.5v and just not enough to oc

[Chewy]

well 3 out of 10 reviews at newegg were doa or bad

[lemonyx]

I'm really considering RMAing and getting a refund but would I get another 3550A or what? The OEM, either beige of silver is around $ 39 w/free shipping but I already have a 3550a w/1.05 from Liggy. It book types now

[Chewy]

the benq is the perfect compliment to the nec, check the benq in her computer

[lemonyx]

Chewy

It works great in her PC.

I tore my PC down part way and reconfigured it. Finally got the RAID working, any way just had to get up the nerve to redo it, it was a PITA when first setting up.

The memory boost is only 3.25v and not 3.65v like I thought earlier

Here's an everest of my beast. The important spec's are in bold, heh, heh

thanks for the help and your time


<TABLE width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=pt>Overclock <TR><TD><HR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD width=16> <TD width=16><TD width=16><TD width=16><TD width=16><TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>CPU Properties: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPU Type <TD>2x Intel Xeon <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPU Alias <TD>Prestonia <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPU Stepping <TD>C1 <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Engineering Sample <TD>No <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPUID CPU Name <TD>Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1.60GHz <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPUID Revision <TD>00000F27h <TR><TD> <TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>CPU Speed: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPU Clock <TD>2861.61 MHz (original: 1600 MHz, overclock: 79%) <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPU Multiplier <TD>14.0x <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>CPU FSB <TD>204.40 MHz (original: 100 MHz, overclock: 104%) <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Memory Bus <TD>204.40 MHz <TR><TD> <TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>CPU Cache: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>L1 Trace Cache <TD>12K Instructions <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>L1 Data Cache <TD>8 KB <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>L2 Cache <TD>512 KB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed) <TR><TD> <TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>Motherboard Properties: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Motherboard ID <TD>02/21/2005-Canterwood-PC-DLC-00 <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Motherboard Name <TD>Asus PC-DL Deluxe (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Gigabit LAN) <TR><TD> <TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>Chipset Properties: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Motherboard Chipset <TD>Intel Canterwood i875P <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Memory Timings <TD>2.5-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) <TR><TD> <TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>SPD Memory Modules: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>DIMM1: Kingston K <TD>512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>DIMM2: Kingston K <TD>512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>DIMM3: Kingston K <TD>512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>DIMM4: Kingston K <TD>512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (2.5-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.0-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) <TR><TD> <TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>BIOS Properties: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>System BIOS Date <TD>02/21/05 <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Video BIOS Date <TD>03/10/15 <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Award BIOS Type <TD>Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Award BIOS Message <TD>ASUS PC-DL ACPI BIOS Revision 1009 <TR><TD> <TR><TD><TD><TD colSpan=3>Graphics Processor Properties: <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Video Adapter <TD>Celestica Gold Edition Radeon 9200 SE 128MB <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>GPU Code Name <TD>RV280 (AGP 8x 1002 / 5964, Rev 01) <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>GPU Clock <TD>200 MHz (original: 200 MHz) <TR><TD><TD><TD><TD>Memory Clock <TD>164 MHz (original: 166 MHz) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

[Chewy]

sensor reading?

the lock on the pci and agp bus might be flackey.

the 100mghz x4 cpus? will they oc to 133x4 with a higher multiplier?

I'd drop the ram to 166 and sync it with the cpu's at 533?

did you try the benq on the secondary controller as master by itself?

brand of power supply

[lemonyx]

sensor reading? I'll get this when I get home later on today

the lock on the pci and agp bus might be flackey. Unfortunately-your right, no lock

the 100mghz x4 cpus? will they oc to 133x4 with a higher multiplier?

C1 stepping will not go over 3.0ghz no matter what the setting on the multiplier or the FSB , I'm looking for D1 stepping Xeon's, these have been reported to go over 3.1ghz and higher easliy


I'd drop the ram to 166 and sync it with the cpu's at 533? OK, I've wanted to tweak the ram but I don't know what I'm doing here. Any suggestions, pls??


did you try the benq on the secondary controller as master by itself? Yes, it's on there by itself as master and works. Still not sure why, but if I use the Nec and the generic dvd-rom I can rip and burn at the same time. But when I use the Benq to burn - no way, it seems to hog both cpu's


brand of power supply

I'll have to get you that when I get home. I was wrong on the single rail- it's a dual 12v rail and I'll have to find another PS with a single 12v rail. I thought I bought the one with the single rail

[Chewy]

I would still try getting the cpu's to run a 133/533 and the mem at 166/333, that should put you in specs with that 533 motherboard, then over clock the cpu only with the multiplier and the ram with the cas settings.
Without a lock on the agp and pci bus nothing works right, my asus AV8 southbridge serial controler and a raptor hd, won't keep XP going for long with my 40-45% OC's. The promise controller does fine.

after looking at the manual again, I see you have the cpu's set for 133, since the 100 setting only overclocks fsb to 166

lemon, you are dangerous, from me that's a compliment!

The benq is a much more complicated chipset with a lot of functions and probably doesn't like the pci bus
being so far out of spec.

I am learning a lot here, since you are overclocking a 166 to 200 fsb, the real system OC is only 20%,
that explains why you could even get it to sort of work!

Another note, leave some head room after upping the multiplier, the fsb can probably carry a 5-7% OC
fine, with your ram set for cas 2, performance should be better than now and stable.

[lemonyx]

I would still try getting the cpu's to run a 133/533 and the mem at 166/333, that should put you in specs with that 533 motherboard, then over clock the cpu only with the multiplier and the ram with the cas settings.
Without a lock on the agp and pci bus nothing works right, my asus AV8 southbridge serial controler and a raptor hd, won't keep XP going for long with my 40-45% OC's. The promise controller does fine.

after looking at the manual again, I see you have the cpu's set for 133, since the 100 setting only overclocks fsb to 166
lemon, you are dangerous, from me that's a compliment! I bow down to your wisdom

The benq is a much more complicated chipset with a lot of functions and probably doesn't like the pci bus
being so far out of spec.

I am learning a lot here, since you are overclocking a 166 to 200 fsb, the real system OC is only 20%,
that explains why you could even get it to sort of work!

Another note, leave some head room after upping the multiplier, the fsb can probably carry a 5-7% OC
fine, with your ram set for cas 2, performance should be better than now and stable.

Will try for 200fsb and 15x

[lemonyx]

Here's that report I promised. I have it set at 200fsb @ 15x and I'm surprised it hasn't gone down

The PS is a Power One 500w dual 12v rail

Sensor

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Sensor Properties:
Sensor Type Winbond W83627THF (ISA 290h)
Motherboard Name Asus PC-DL

Temperatures:
Motherboard 51 °C (124 °F)
CPU1 39 °C (102 °F)
CPU2 37 °C (99 °F)
DW CDW08J0-D89UL0X 31 °C (88 °F)
DW CDW2100BJ0-G0AV 0 27 °C (81 °F)
DW CDW2100BJ0-G0AV 0 27 °C (81 °F)

Cooling Fans:
CPU1 1507 RPM
CPU2 1372 RPM

Voltage Values:
CPU1 Core 1.57 V
CPU2 Core 1.62 V
+3.3 V 3.26 V
+5 V 5.00 V
+12 V 11.98 V
+5 V Standby 5.09 V
VBAT Battery 3.09 V
Debug Info F FF 07 7B
Debug Info T 51 39 37
Debug Info V B4 C5 CC BA BF 00 00 (01)

CPU

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CPU Properties:
CPU Type 2x Intel Xeon, 3000 MHz (15 x 200)
CPU Alias Prestonia
CPU Stepping C1
Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE, SSE2
Original Clock 1600 MHz
Min / Max CPU Multiplier 12x / 16x
Engineering Sample No
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 8 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

Multi CPU:
Motherboard ID OEM00000 PROD00000000
CPU #0 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1.60GHz, 3014 MHz
CPU #1 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1.60GHz, 3013 MHz
CPU #2 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1.60GHz, 3013 MHz
CPU #3 Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 1.60GHz, 3013 MHz

CPU Physical Info:
Package Type 603 Pin FC-PGA
Package Size 5.34 cm x 5.34 cm
Transistors 55 million
Process Technology 6M, 0.13 um, CMOS, Cu, Low-K
Die Size 131 mm2
Core Voltage 1.50 V
I/O Voltage 1.50 V
Typical Power 55.0 - 85.0 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 62 - 101 W (depending on clock speed)

CPU Manufacturer:
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm

CPU Utilization:
CPU #1 / HTT Unit #1 0 %
CPU #2 / HTT Unit #1 100 %
CPU #2 / HTT Unit #2 100 %
CPU #1 / HTT Unit #2 100 %

[Chewy]

don't take the fsb past 180, and take the multipl up to 16 or 17

at 200 you are overclocking the system bus too high, that hurts the ide and raid

[Chewy]

The PS is a Power One 500w dual 12v rail

dual 12 volt should be fine, until you see a drop of 10% in one of those rails

[lemonyx]

Ok, I'll play with it more.