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  • JakeBlues
    Digital Video Enthusiast
    Digital Video Enthusiast
    • Dec 2006
    • 364

    OK.. lemme get this straight...does it MEAN that their putting 2 channels in one that way the memory is more "free flowing"? Like the hour glass picture, the bigger the hole (or 2 smaller ones as the case MAY be) the faster the sand can run thru it!???


    Dual-channel architecture

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    <!-- start content -->Dual-channel architecture DDR/DDR2 SDRAM describes a motherboard technology that effectively doubles data throughput from RAM to the memory controller. Dual channel-enabled memory controllers utilize two 64-bit data channels, resulting in a total bandwidth of 128-bits, to move data from RAM to the CPU.
    In order to achieve this, the DDR/DDR2 SDRAM memory modules must be installed into matching banks, which are usually color coded on the motherboard. It is not required that identical modules are used, but it is often recommended. One module of 512MB RAM could be installed in bank one and a 1GB module could be installed in bank two. Modules rated at different speeds can be run in dual channel, although the motherboard will then run all memory modules at the speed of the slowest module. Some motherboards however have compatibility issues with certain brands or models of modules when attempting to use them in dual channel mode. For this reason it is generally advised to use identical pairs of memory modules and most memory manufacturers now sell "kits" of matched pair DIMMs. Several motherboard manufacturers only support configurations where a "matched pair" of modules are used. Dual-channel architecture is a technology embraced by motherboard manufactures and does not apply to memory modules. In other words, any matched pair of memory modules may support single and dual-channel operation, provided the motherboard supports this architecture.

    Purpose

    Graphic illustrating bottleneck between CPU, RAM, and other peripherals


    Dual channel technology was created to address the issue of bottlenecks. Increased processor speed and performance requires other, less prominent components to keep pace.
    The most conspicuous of these parts is the memory controller, which regulates data flow between CPU and the system memory (RAM). The memory controller determines the types and speeds of RAM as well as the maximum size of each individual memory module and the overall memory capacity of the system. There are many memory controller designs; prior to 2003, the most common was the single channel configuration. Among its advantages are its low cost and flexibility. Its ability to produce a bottleneck effect arises when it is unable to keep up with the processor, leaving it with nothing to process while the memory controller is struggling to keep up with the data flow. Under the single channel architecture, any CPU with a bus speed that is greater than the memory speed would be liable to fall prey to this bottle-neck effect.
    The dual channel configuration alleviates the problem by doubling the amount of available memory bandwidth. Instead of a single memory channel, a second parallel channel is added. With two channels working simultaneously, the bottleneck is reduced. Rather than wait for memory technology to improve, dual channel architecture simply takes the existing RAM technology and improves the method in which it is handled. While the actual implementation differs between Intel and AMD motherboards, the basic theory stands.

    Matching Pair

    A matching pair needs to match: - Capacity (e.g. 1024MB) - Speed (e.g. PC5300) - Number of chips and sides (e.g. 2 sides with 4 chips on each side)
    Last edited by JakeBlues; 2 Apr 2007, 07:29 PM. Reason: more info
    ElwoodsBrotherJake "...I'm on a mission from God, to help me and others from making coasters!

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    • Chewy
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 18971

      dup link should have been the ballistix I had reccomended earlier

      important thing is to get cas 2 ram

      dual channel real effect is about 10%

      cas 2 vs cas 3 can be 20% or more
      Last edited by Chewy; 2 Apr 2007, 08:20 PM.

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      • JakeBlues
        Digital Video Enthusiast
        Digital Video Enthusiast
        • Dec 2006
        • 364

        Originally Posted by Chewy
        dup link should have been the ballistix I had reccomended earlier

        important thing is to get cas 2 ram

        dual channel real effect is about 10%

        cas 2 vs cas 3 can be 20% or more
        Brother Chewy,
        Jake is tech impaired... I don't know what you mean. PLEASE explain it to me as you would a 6th grader (it'll probably help me) "..to get cas 2 ram"
        I don't see that (or I wasn't looking) I was looking for pc 3200 ddr 184 pin stuff like the ballstix you recommended (that ballstix got BAD reviews and the kid at the computer store said if memory is unstable it'll cause to many problems.. he wouldn't recommend it) they were out of most their's so he didn't reccomend any at their store either said kingstons and ultra and mid range and usually good.

        BUT one thing I think I understand here you said is "duel channel (memory's ) real effect is only an additional 10% increase affective.
        cas means what bro? I'll read up on it.
        Only reason I keep asking these "dumb" questions is so I can make a 1/2 way educated guess. Please don't frustrated at me.
        Thanks
        ElwoodsBrotherJake "...I'm on a mission from God, to help me and others from making coasters!

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        • Chewy
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18971

          cas are wait states, higher is bad

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          • jm1647
            An Eagles Fan, A MenuShrinker
            • Apr 2005
            • 3661

            Yo Jake you alright!!
            Last edited by jm1647; 5 Apr 2007, 04:14 AM. Reason: Edited for jakeblues :)

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            • JakeBlues
              Digital Video Enthusiast
              Digital Video Enthusiast
              • Dec 2006
              • 364

              Yeah.. fine dude.
              Thanks for asking I was only in for the night, my wife was worried.
              When you get a chance please edit my real name off your post #216.
              My wife knows, she see's me here reading and typing everyday. I tell her your my friends and are helping me with my new computer (she seen the parts here) I just try to let her keep up with this so she won't think this is a singles forum or something and I'm here looking for girls. (wahahaha)
              Reason being, she's Deaf and not from this country... but she's still trying to practice her english and sign language everyday.. she's pretty dang good at sign language, her recent interpreter said she's getting pretty good for someone that has not native to ASL (american sign language), she tells them "he teach to me" hehe he's teaching me. I grew up with a step dad that worked matainence at the state Deaf school, so I was there alot... most Deaf people think I'm Deaf when I sign! (hehe it's a compliment, trust me)
              Her heart was in the right place
              Thanks.....

              PS. Guys... HERE's A PICTURE OF MY One And Only, she's 3 month old!
              Yeah, I'm proud!
              I love this icon by the way...
              Attached Files
              Last edited by JakeBlues; 5 Apr 2007, 03:01 AM. Reason: added info
              ElwoodsBrotherJake "...I'm on a mission from God, to help me and others from making coasters!

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              • ratboy
                Digital Video Specialist
                Digital Video Specialist
                • Dec 2004
                • 768

                Jake,
                Glad to hear all is OK. That has to be one of the cutest babies I have seen. You definitely have reason to be Proud. I say one of because of course my two were just a little cuter. IMO

                As I said glad to hear you are doing ok, thought you may have been a little BLUE. If you were, I was going to say don’t be BLUE, Your cute little one may not like SMURFF’s.

                Just kick back and let things come together. Don't forget to Relax up there in the Hills.


                And sing the little one a HAPPY song. And give her a big

                And not only as my Sig. says but, "Remember if it is not fun, you are just doing it wrong. Because it has to be fun or you would not be doing it"
                Important: Remember, if something is worth doing, its worth doing wrong until you learn to do it Right!

                sigpic IT'S ALL GOOD

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                • soup
                  Just Trying To Help
                  • Nov 2005
                  • 7524

                  Nice pic Jake, glad to hear you are okay. She is a cute baby, way to go.

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                  • JakeBlues
                    Digital Video Enthusiast
                    Digital Video Enthusiast
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 364

                    Thanks for the well wishes RB, that was one of the funniest post I've seen in a while .. I need the laugh thanks
                    ElwoodsBrotherJake "...I'm on a mission from God, to help me and others from making coasters!

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                    • JakeBlues
                      Digital Video Enthusiast
                      Digital Video Enthusiast
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 364

                      Thank you brother Soup...
                      If I get this other job I really want... man oh man my machine will scream!
                      hehe
                      ElwoodsBrotherJake "...I'm on a mission from God, to help me and others from making coasters!

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                      • soup
                        Just Trying To Help
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 7524

                        I am pulling for you. I changed mine up a little bit as of last Friday, my PC that is.

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                        • katzdvd
                          Lord of Digital Video
                          Lord of Digital Video
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 2198

                          I changed mine up a little bit as of last Friday, my PC that is.
                          My pc is ALWAYS in a constant state of evolution!

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                          • doctorhardware
                            Lord of Digital Video
                            Lord of Digital Video
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 1907

                            That is the only way plus it adds to the excitement.
                            Star Baby Girl, Born March,1997 Died June 30th 2007 6:35 PM.

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                            • JakeBlues
                              Digital Video Enthusiast
                              Digital Video Enthusiast
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 364

                              I hate when things come a screeching halt!

                              I have to put things on hold just a bit....
                              I applied for a new job at a local hospital, if I get it I won't get paid for a month... the first check anyways. I have to go in at 8 am for drug and physical testing etc...
                              But it kinda cool Great benifits, great pay.... easy going boss (but not a push over)
                              I am scared a month with no check will seem like a life time.

                              hang on... this is STILL in the works and I sure ass hell am going to finish what I started!
                              I think I may make this purchase before I'm strangled..

                              Looks good and the price seem MORE than reasonable.

                              I placed one of the samsung drives into the dell (I guess it really needs one and I'll buy another soon) I burned a dvd today played fine on computer and dvd player but I can't get nero cd-dvd to start. It's reading the drive model at the top( and the drive info test seems fine)... but when i try to test it's some kinda failed "error intilizing test" dunno why it did the bench mark test with no problem.
                              Any thoughts?
                              Last edited by JakeBlues; 6 Apr 2007, 10:31 AM. Reason: more info
                              ElwoodsBrotherJake "...I'm on a mission from God, to help me and others from making coasters!

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                              • soup
                                Just Trying To Help
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 7524

                                With the Samsung you have to pay a little visit to the registry so that it will be able to do the Disc Quality Scan. I think it is in this thread but it was a while ago.

                                http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=68884.

                                Edit: If you want the full story start at Page #3, Post #33 to the end. If you want the shortcut Page #4, Post #60.
                                Last edited by soup; 6 Apr 2007, 11:05 AM. Reason: Add info.

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