Ubuntu Linux - Split Thread

[katzdvd]

BTW, I'm surprised you're hanging in there; can't let go of Beryl, eh?

No, more like - I'm too lazy to install xp on the empty partition, & I am using the other pc that does have windows on it as a backup workstation...

Oh yeah, & I do like beryl...

BTW if you don't mind a bit of bleeding edge compositing goodness, you might like to take a look at Compiz and Compiz Fusion (the "new" names after the Beryl & Compiz merge). Running it now; smoother, faster, more stable (than Beryl) and some fantastic new features.

I kind of hesitate on doing those things, I am finding I am resistant to change all the time. I am sort of wondering about the new linux OS situation every 6 mo? Will I accept that or embrace it, reinstalling a new OS twice a year...

I'll be carefully selecting the parts for my next build to make sure they're compatible

Where do I find a compatibility list? Also, when I was first selecting the parts, I wasn't really thinking of installing ubuntu at that point, that idea came along later, towards the end of the build process, after I already had most of the stuff

[anonymez]

I am sort of wondering about the new linux OS situation every 6 mo? Will I accept that or embrace it, reinstalling a new OS twice a year...

A clean install is not needed, just an apt-get dist-upgrade and everything will be updated automatically.

I kind of hesitate on doing those things, I am finding I am resistant to change all the time.

There's no rush, go at your own pace.

Where do I find a compatibility list?

I saw one a while back, I'll see if I can dig it up.

[anonymez]

I was just browsing the kernel changelogs and noticed this in 2.6.21:

HDA: Add support for Fujitsu PI1556 Realtek ALC880 (commit), add sigmatel 9205 eapd support (commit), add asus-laptop model for ALC861 (ALC660) (commit), add support for Evesham Voyager C530RD laptops (commit), add asus model to ALC861 codec (commit), add support for Sigmatel STAC9202/9250/9251 codecs (commit), add toshiba model to ALC861 codec (commit), add support for Toshiba M105 to Realtek patch (commit), add support for Clevo M540JE, M550JE laptops (Nvidia MCP51 chipset, ALC883 codec) (commit), add support for Medion laptops (commit), add support for VIA VT1708(A) HD audio codec (commit), add new modesl for Realtek codecs (commit), add HP BPC-D7000 support (commit), add support for Sony UX-90s (commit), add model for ASUS W3j laptop (commit), add ALC861VD/ALC660VD support (commit), add support for Samsung Q1 Ultra (commit)

I could be wrong, but it looks like your audio device is supported from this version onwards; Feisty uses 2.6.20-15, Gutsy will use 2.6.22-x. Updating the kernel should let Audacity/GNUSound etc do their thing. Since it's not in the repositories it is a little trickier than what you are used to, but it is safe nonetheless (if anything goes wrong, you can just select the previous kernel at boot instead). So just ask if you want to go ahead with it.

[katzdvd]

So just ask if you want to go ahead with it.

Sure, I'll give it a shot! If it fails I can always reinstall ubuntu, since that is an easy process for me now

Updating the kernel should let Audacity/GNUSound etc do their thing.

I am really hoping that someone picks up the ball in the future with Goldwave under wine, as that is my fav. editing pgm.

[anonymez]

Slight change of plans, let's try installing the latest ALSA drivers instead. This is faster, easier and has a fair chance of getting your audio device working. Download the sources first: One, Two and Three

Extract each of them to separate folders anywhere on your PC.

To download & install the required packages for compiling, run

sudo apt-get install build-essential ncurses-dev gettext libasound2-dev checkinstall

And for kernel headers, run

sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`

Now start with the first source package. CD to the folder where you extracted it, eg:

cd '/home/user/path/to/folder'

The next command "tailors" the source to your system and prepares it for compiling:

./configure

Then compile the source code:

make

And finally install:

sudo checkinstall

You will then be asked to "name" the package (name it anything you want) and if you want create a folder for docs (answer no), just accept defaults afterwards. Repeat the steps in italics for the other two source packages. After installation, there will be a nice .deb package in each extracted folder, so you don't have to compile from source again should you format or need to update/install ALSA drivers on another PC. You can delete the source packages and the extracted folders. Reboot and let us know how it went.

BTW I think this is your first compilation. Not so hard, is it? Congrats!

[katzdvd]

Not so hard, is it?

well, maybe from where you're sitting, but on this side of the keyboard...

I did the first 2 commands, but this always seems to throw me:

cd '/home/user/path/to/folder'

I put in what I thought was correct, but I get "bash: .configure/home/tr/Desktop/Latest: No such file or directory" no matter what I try. I actually go into the folder properties & copy/paste the text from the location bar, & that is what I am ending up with.

[Chewy]

14 Apr 2007, 06:48 PM

Chewy move to Linux already, you won't have to worry about any of this firewall, spyware, or virus/trojan nonsense

hmmmmmmmmmm?

[doctorhardware]

And that is what Apple thought also.

[anonymez]

Katz, you're just entering the wrong directory. eg for the second file it should be something like



Remember each file you downloaded should be extracted to a separate folder (via right-click->extract)

@Chewy: Nothing has changed since I made that comment

[katzdvd]

>sigh<

well I ran the first driver, it looked like all was going well, but at the end of the install I got a ton of this stuff...

install: setting permissions for `/usr/include/sound/version.h': No such file or directory
install: setting permissions for `/usr/include/sound/vx_core.h': No such file or directory
install: setting permissions for `/usr/include/sound/wavefront.h': No such file or directory
install: setting permissions for `/usr/include/sound/wavefront_fx.h': No such file or directory
install: setting permissions for `/usr/include/sound/ymfpci.h': No such file or directory
find /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound -name 'snd*.*o' | xargs rm -f
find /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound -name 'ac97_bus.*o' | xargs rm -f
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tr/Desktop/Alsa driver 1/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2_FILES/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore'
Makefile:5: /home/tr/Desktop/Alsa: No such file or directory
Makefile:5: driver: No such file or directory
Makefile:5: 1/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2_FILES/alsa-driver-1.0.14/toplevel.config: No such file or directory
Makefile:6: /home/tr/Desktop/Alsa: No such file or directory
Makefile:6: driver: No such file or directory
Makefile:6: 1/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2_FILES/alsa-driver-1.0.14/Makefile.conf: No such file or directory
Makefile:16: /home/tr/Desktop/Alsa: No such file or directory
Makefile:16: driver: No such file or directory
Makefile:16: 1/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2_FILES/alsa-driver-1.0.14/alsa-kernel/core/Makefile: No such file or directory
Makefile:28: /home/tr/Desktop/Alsa: No such file or directory
Makefile:28: driver: No such file or directory
Makefile:28: 1/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2_FILES/alsa-driver-1.0.14/Rules.make: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `1/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2_FILES/alsa-driver-1.0.14/Rules.make'. Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tr/Desktop/Alsa driver 1/alsa-driver-1.0.14.tar.bz2_FILES/alsa-driver-1.0.14/acore'
make: *** [install-modules] Error 1

**** Installation failed. Aborting package creation.

Cleaning up.../usr/bin/checkinstall: line 300: [: too many arguments
OK

Bye.

there was more to it, but I figured you would know what went wrong by the info. I posted...

[anonymez]

Strange... still looks like a problem with directories. You could try again, or I could upload a deb package I created, if you like.

(Sorry for the lateness, BTW).

[katzdvd]

I could upload a deb package I created, if you like

If you wouldn't mind, that would be helpful! And you know my level of understanding, so I need explicit directions!

[anonymez]

No worries, but I'm not at my PC at the moment so it will have to wait a few hours. Deb packages are as simple as a double click & install.

You know when you are getting too much Compiz when you try flipping the cube on an XP workstation.

[anonymez]

Was about to compile the alsa packages, but realized you could simply update from the Gutsy repository (darn, really should've thought of that before ). A good thing, since mine cannot compare to the repo maintenance team. At this point, there are 3 options; updating alsa via Gutsy repos, updating the kernel via Gutsy repos, or compiling your own.

I should mention that using a different release's repositories is generally not recommended since it can cause dependency issues and might break some functionality. I think it unlikely in our case, however.

So, start by running

gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

and add this line to the end:

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy main restricted universe multiverse

then save & close. Then run a

sudo apt-get update

and a

sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils

once more, run

gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

delete the last line and save. And one last

sudo apt-get update

to remove the gutsy packages from the list.

Reboot and cross your fingers; if this doesn't work, a kernel update sure will.

P.S. Sorry I'm late!

[katzdvd]

Hi Anony!

Well, you already knew this answer I'm sure...but...it didn't work. I ran all that & rebooted. That went fine. Then I tried to record stream audio w/ a program that I like the looks of, GNUSound, & the screen went black & took me back to my username/login page.

After logging back in, I then tried audacity both with OSS & ALSA, & it would not record the stream.

Business as usual...

Oh, well, at least we keep Chewy laughing!