Do you Like Vista?

[MilesAhead]

@jwo62 thanks for the info. I would check out FAVC and see how it
does. It will launch encoders for each core. Really maxes them out. Also
DVD Rebuilder Pro runs great on my dual core. With 2 copies of HC running
Core Temp shows both my cores at 100%. I bet both those apps would scream
on your machine. I have to get a quad machine pretty soon. One limiting
factor though is I'm determined to get 10/100/1000 RJ45 ethernet so I'm
not stuck forever at 100 Mbit/sec Lan. Seems all the 8 GB PCs come
with. Dell is priced right but I'm leery of the legendary Dell
Incompatibilities(tm). Oh well, someday I'll make up my mind.

[dr_ml422]

@gonwk. Nah no jam just kidding on the direction of the thread there w/atifsh.

@atifsh. Know you from here. That avatar's enough to keep anyone at bay. Lol...

@jwo62. Do you have your new pc loaded w/a lot of apps. yet? Just curious because I noticed that w/my upraded Dell w/2gbs of ram and stronger psu it's zipping pretty quick, especially when I have lots of videos on there ready to be burned. Only 80gb HD, and it might or might not ring true, but I think the more stuff on the pc up to a certain point the faster the response time. Guess it's like it's really using its full power on a larger load and not having too much empty space to work with.

My new build is way faster, but I have 2 sata hds. 1 250gb and the other 1 500gb. I haven't seen that much of a faster speed and I have 2gbs of ram there too. I do see more speed when I load my 500gb hd w/about 80 or more gbs of video work ready to be burned. I'm thinking maybe just use the 250gb hd as it seems enough and then see if there's a way bigger difference in speed.

Maybe Miles can give us some input on this as he's more knowledgeable about the inner workings of computers. My theory is that it's like having mad energy, but not expending it on anything, hence there's like a vacuum of empty space which is not being used.

Oh yeah, and my new build takes longer to boot than my dell. although I do have to log in on my new build. Don't know if that slows the boot time. Miles or anyone can post on this. My dell boots in about 7 seconds. The new build in about 10 seconds.

Something different that I started doing is plugging my monitor straight into the wall socket instead of into a surge protector. The modem, computer, and speakers I kept on the surge protector. My new netgear 1gb transfer switch port is plugged str8 into the wall also.

[atifsh]

no serious problems yet.

i have to admit,i dont realy see the speed i thought i would see. moving up from a 1.4 ghz/640mb ram pc to a 2.66ghz quad core with 6 gb..

what did u expected, it will boost u tothe moon ?

actually i think u should have seen performance gain regarding overall system responsivness, programs starting faster..... and oh now u can scan ur disk for viruses and play music and browse without been troubled

[MilesAhead]

@jwo62 it does seem kind of odd that a machine like that doesn't feel like it's kicking ass. My AMD dual core with 2 GB and 500 LB gorilla Vista still seems a lot snappier than my Pentium 4 w 1 GB ram and XP Pro. I'd keep an eye out for disk read retries and make sure that "slow down syndrome" isn't sneaking up on you.

@dr_ml422 I don't understand your nervous energy theory but if one of the facets is that bigger HDs are faster then Chewy could tell you that the more data you can squeeze into the same form factor then the drive head arm doesn't have to move so far to get it.. so it should be faster as well as being able to store more. Although I may be misunderstanding what you are asking.

[MilesAhead]

@jwo62 it does seem kind of odd that a machine like that doesn't feel like it's kicking ass. My AMD dual core with 2 GB and 500 LB gorilla Vista still seems a lot snappier than my Pentium 4 w 1 GB ram and XP Pro. I'd keep an eye out for disk read retries and make sure that "slow down syndrome" isn't sneaking up on you.

@dr_ml422 I don't understand your nervous energy theory but if one of the facets is that bigger HDs are faster then Chewy could tell you that the more data you can squeeze into the same form factor then the drive head arm doesn't have to move so far to get it.. so it should be faster as well as being able to store more. Although I may be misunderstanding what you are asking.

[dr_ml422]

@jwo62 it does seem kind of odd that a machine like that doesn't feel like it's kicking ass. My AMD dual core with 2 GB and 500 LB gorilla Vista still seems a lot snappier than my Pentium 4 w 1 GB ram and XP Pro. I'd keep an eye out for disk read retries and make sure that "slow down syndrome" isn't sneaking up on you.

@dr_ml422 I don't understand your nervous energy theory but if one of the facets is that bigger HDs are faster then Chewy could tell you that the more data you can squeeze into the same form factor then the drive head arm doesn't have to move so far to get it.. so it should be faster as well as being able to store more. Although I may be misunderstanding what you are asking.

That's exactly what I was trying to say, just didn't know the technical terms to express it. I just used common sense to figure that if you're using more power then you should have more data so it could work with and transfer especially in proportion to the amount of hd space you have. Like I mentioned I have a 250gb and a 500gb on my build. The 250 is partitioned into 50gb for windows xp home and apps. and the 200gb for w/e. The 500gb is intact. When I load up that 500gb w/about 200 or more gb of video work my pc zips faster, and I'm also burning, on Thunderbird and Google Talk and Firefox. Same thing here. AMD Dual Core and 2 gb of Ram.

I'm thinking soon as these techies send me my Acer Monitor Back I might load up the 500gb w/w/e I deem worth storing and saving and just use the 250 gb alone. I'll bet anything that when I load that 200gb partition w/about 100 or so gb of video work it'll zip like a hot knife through butter.

There's always thrashing to worry about, but I don't think it much of a big deal.

P.S. By form factor you mean hd don't you? Have only 2 fingers to type and post and didn't hit google as I wanted to reply asaic. Lol...

[Chewy]

One of the drive companies did some real world tests(long ago and far away)

they were testing raid stripes, smallest drive was a 20 gig, largest an 80

After loading the OS some programs and data the striped 20's were the fastest

Within a family or generation smaller is fastest, as drives increase in size with newer generations desity increases and speed can improve

Very complexe problem

[dr_ml422]

One of the drive companies did some real world tests(long ago and far away)

they were testing raid stripes, smallest drive was a 20 gig, largest an 80

After loading the OS some programs and data the striped 20's were the fastest

Within a family or generation smaller is fastest, as drives increase in size with newer generations desity increases and speed can improve

Very complexe problem

Good to hear from you. Thought the Millenium took you past the point of no return. Lol...

So I guess I'm ok w/the 250 being partitioned into 50gb for system and apps. and the other 200gb for data should I go that route. 50gb is very much more than enough for xp home and the apps. I currently have. 200gb is good when I get crazy w/video work.

I'll also be ok if I leave the 500gb hd in as a storage as it being a separate drive won't affect the access time of the os from the inner faster part of the hd to the outer part. When we put the build together the hds were a steal so at the time the price for the two was great.

Is there a way to repartition the 50gb w/the os and apps. to about 30gbs w/out having to do a clean install? This would definitely put an even faster zip into my build. Maybe even 25gb could do. Right now the 200gb partition is not even used as I mostly put my work on the separate 500gb ready to be burned. I never thought about putting all my personal work in that 500gb hd and storing it until I would need it.

P.S. Looks like I got screwed on that Acer Monitor. They're so backed up w/returns and/or repairs they haven't even looked at mine yet. Got there on the 20th of OCT.

[Chewy]

There should be no difference in performance with a 30 or a 50 gig system partition

I keep half a 20 gig partition free, running lean is what impacts performance

[dr_ml422]

There should be no difference in performance with a 30 or a 50 gig system partition

I keep half a 20 gig partition free, running lean is what impacts performance

So if I understand this correctly you have a 20 gig partition and just use 1/2 for w/e and leave the other 1/2 empty for lean performance?

Would the analogy be me leaving 1/2 of the 200 gig partition free and just use the 50 gig system partition w/apps. and 100 gigs of the 200 gig partition for data etc...? Correct? Thnx.

[Chewy]

I keep half my system partition free, which leaves me plenty of room for temp stuff to be transfered or deleted before defrag

My data partition often gets 60-70% full but after that is so fragmented I don't trust it

[dr_ml422]

I keep half my system partition free, which leaves me plenty of room for temp stuff to be transfered or deleted before defrag

My data partition often gets 60-70% full but after that is so fragmented I don't trust it

I got you. I'm good then. I'm going to do xactly what I mentioned. Keep the 250 gig for system n data n fill the 500 gig w/w/e storage I want. Lots to keep learning and lots to expand on.

[dazuk1972]

Vista sucks. There's so much software that doesn't work for it and that is also software that is supposed to be compatable with Vista.

I know somebody that bought a JVC camcorder and he can't access his video files through it. The folders appear but no video files don't. Not even any music or photo files. I tried the same software on another PC that has Vista and the same thing happened. I tired it with another PC with XP and all was fine. The software is Cyberlink Power Cinema NE For Everio.

I tried help an Uncle of mine with a Samsung camcorder that is an old model but I asked Samsung if they have a driver to update things. They said there is one. When I went to the site it said the driver was suitable for All Windows. When I tried to install it, it back-fired on me and it didn't want to know. Good ole Vista messed up yet again. I'd rather stick to XP. Vista sucks and should be trashed.

[dazuk1972]

I keep half my system partition free, which leaves me plenty of room for temp stuff to be transfered or deleted before defrag

My data partition often gets 60-70% full but after that is so fragmented I don't trust it

What did you mean about keeping half your hard drive partition free over the Temp data to be transfered or deleted data before Defraging? This is interesting to me because one of my brother Defraged his PC one time and it buckled nealry everything where about 70% of his software was partly uninstalled and he had to format his PC to fix it. He couldn't even back-up his data because his burning software was gone and he couldn't re-install it because parts of it remained in his hard drive and he couldn't uninstall the rest of the remains because others were detected in hidden locations. He lost his data over Defraging.

Many thanks.

[Chewy]

He lost his data over Defraging.

When you neglect and abuse a computer long enough, probably time to get a new one.
Not everyone can keep a computer running right or should even own one.

My momma use to say "stupid is as stupid does"

In over ten years the only problem I have had with defrag was when I used another program and tried to speed up boot time and I have had a lot of computers.