Motherboard & CPU Temperatures-Question

[Westly32]

I used a program called EVEREST Home Edition, which I found here to look at my pc's specs. And I noticed the temperature that it came back for the motherboard and cpu, and was taken aback. I don't know if it's normal or not. I realize any electronic equipment that's on for several hours will run hot, but...

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</td><td colspan="3">Sensor Properties: </td></tr><tr> <td>
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</td><td>Sensor Type </td><td>SMSC LPC47M192/997 (SMBus 2Dh) </td></tr><tr> <td>
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</td><td>Motherboard Name </td><td>MSI MS-7093 </td></tr><tr> <td> </td></tr><tr> <td>
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</td><td>Motherboard </td><td>48 °C (118 °F) </td></tr><tr> <td>
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</td><td>CPU </td><td>43 °C (109 °F) </td></tr><tr> <td>
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</td><td>WDC WD2500JS-60MHB1 </td><td>68 °C (154 °F) </td></tr><tr> <td> </td></tr><tr> <td>
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</td><td>CPU </td><td>953 RPM </td></tr><tr> <td>
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</td><td>Chassis </td><td>1707 RPM </td></tr></tbody></table>

So, are these temps the norm for a pc?

[Chewy]

I would jury rig a fan onto that northbridge chipset heat sink, that temp for the hard drive is way too high, might have to add a case fan?

[Westly32]

I was afraid that was just to high a reading. I haven't had any problems-that I know of, pc performance wise. (stupid question) Having 2 fans in a pc won't make it run hotter or use even more power? Arrgh!

[Chewy]

keep the computer cleaned out, make sure the case gets plenty of cool air

[ipaulo]

This might make a good sticky. What would be exceptable temperatures? Please tell me if I'm ok with these temp. Thanks

[Chewy]

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

watch each individual core's temp under load

[katzdvd]

Hi Westly32,

I commend you for taking the time & interest to check the temps; Just curious. What is your ambient room temp? Are you air conditioned?

I have a family member who lives in a 90 degree + apartment, runs his pc night & day chugging thru heavy/audio editing, & wonders why his parts are always frying. I tried to turn him on to Everest in the beginning, but he wouldn't listen, so I just smile to myself when he calls me about his pc not booting, & it turns out he needs a new mainboard/hard drive, etc.

He's been thru many, many "forced" upgrades, lol!

Course, this is the guy with a 4 yr. old DVD burner who refuses to update the firmware, burning away happily with KHypermedia....

I guess ignorance is bliss, but sometimes expensive!

My favorite thing to tell him lately is "go to google & use the search function!"

[ipaulo]

Thanks Chewy. Which one do you think is the correct reading? The Everest is about 10C lower than Core Temps. Also do you think I'm in a safe range. When I run DVDRebuilder in Idle (low) priority the temps go up a few Cs.

[Chewy]

core temp show higher readings for a reason, it's reporting the truer/on die?
temp, now check right after bootup, then after idle/short use, then very carefully bring all four cores up for a while where the average use is at least 60-70%, if it gets close to 60C then back off the load

capture a screenshot during that load please

and don't even consider overclocking that monster

[Westly32]

Hi Westly32,

I commend you for taking the time & interest to check the temps; Just curious. What is your ambient room temp? Are you air conditioned?

I read about Everest here in a thread, and simply decided to d/l it...I wasn't specifically looking to see the cpu temp.

I guess ignorance is bliss, but sometimes expensive!

You got that right. I wish I hadn't, cause I've spent the last few days wondering why it's so high. Despite the central air running constantly...

[katzdvd]

You got that right. I wish I hadn't, cause I've spent the last few days wondering why it's so high. Despite the central air running constantly...

Well, better to uncover a potential problem now, instead of when the pc melts down & you lose all your critical data! (esp. the stuff you haven't backed up)

[Chewy]

I just got verification that the new everest V4 reports the kernel temp exactly
like core temp

[MilesAhead]

smokin'

I was afraid that was just to high a reading. I haven't had any problems-that I know of, pc performance wise. (stupid question) Having 2 fans in a pc won't make it run hotter or use even more power? Arrgh!

Hmmm according to Western Digital specs the drive operating temp
likes 5°C to 55°C (41°F to 131°F)

I'm surprised it hasn't shut down or produced CRC errors. Either that
or your sensor is defective.

Does your PC have any options to adjust fan speed via the BIOS?
If so I'd try bumpin' 'em up and see if it shows cooler running. If
the temp doesn't change maybe the thermometer is broken.

[Westly32]

Does your PC have any options to adjust fan speed via the BIOS?
If so I'd try bumpin' 'em up and see if it shows cooler running. If
the temp doesn't change maybe the thermometer is broken.

Looked in BIOS for anything fan related, and didn't see anything listed. I'm not tech savy enough to dig into it beyond the menu screens that were listed, and risk mis setting anything.
I did open the tower this morning to clean it out. The fans-one on the motherboard, one in the power supply case, and a 3rd underneath it were remarkably clean, only a very fine layer of dust (barely noticeable-I had to get a flashlight to actually see it) plus a few tiny dust bunnies on the floor of the case The pc is just over a year old.
So, I'll stop worrying... for now.

[MilesAhead]

Might check web site

Looked in BIOS for anything fan related, and didn't see anything listed. I'm not tech savy enough to dig into it beyond the menu screens that were listed, and risk mis setting anything.
I did open the tower this morning to clean it out. The fans-one on the motherboard, one in the power supply case, and a 3rd underneath it were remarkably clean, only a very fine layer of dust (barely noticeable-I had to get a flashlight to actually see it) plus a few tiny dust bunnies on the floor of the case The pc is just over a year old.
So, I'll stop worrying... for now.

My new AMD machine has no user-controlled fan settings AFAIK but my last 2 PCs were HP Pavilion with Pentium D CPUs. The regular boot up BIOS screens didn't have any way to set the fan speeds but on the HP help forums I found out that there was an "undocumented" BIOS screen that would come up if you pressed F11 during boot. This screen let you set fan voltages and temperature thresholds. Occasionally these PCs were locking up because as I found out, the threshold for bumping up the fan speed was set at 69 C and this CPU issues a Halt instruction at 70 C. Before the fans could even speed up, my PC would lock up!!

It may be worth checking out your manufacturer's web site to see if there's a support forum. The fact that there's nearly no dust may just indicate that the fans aren't turning fast enough to create a vacuum!!

OTOH if you're not getting errors I can appreciate the "if it ain't broke" philosphy. CPUs may protect themselves with a Halt instruction but I'm not sure what safety features are built into Hard Drives. Good luck with it.