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  • Chewy
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18971

    I have dreaded this day

    A dj friend of mine got a toshiba floor model laptop from compusa's closing sale for more than half off



    no xp drivers and a lot of updates for vista and this model

    Can it be fixed or is this a hopeless task, seems slow as heck to boot, task bar is a nightmare

    spec's attached
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  • doctorhardware
    Lord of Digital Video
    Lord of Digital Video
    • Dec 2006
    • 1907

    #2
    Chewy have fun with the driver issues.
    Star Baby Girl, Born March,1997 Died June 30th 2007 6:35 PM.

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    • Chewy
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 18971

      #3
      If I can't fix the present install then I will try xp if i can find drivers for everything from the actual sources, if that bails then we have the restore dvd's

      the hd player dvd burner looks the iffiest

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      • doctorhardware
        Lord of Digital Video
        Lord of Digital Video
        • Dec 2006
        • 1907

        #4
        I would think that XP would be easier to use then Vista. A lot of the time the recovery disks do not have all the drivers. That is where the problems begin. The manufactures web site are all but almost useless, trying to find the drivers.
        Star Baby Girl, Born March,1997 Died June 30th 2007 6:35 PM.

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        • Chewy
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18971

          #5
          to fix the hd player, I have to update bios, apply a specific video driver then download a whole huge new player software to play hd dvd's manufactured after aug 2007



          here it is, the ultimate vista power user guide, designed for DJ's who don't go online

          use with caution, this is pretty heady stuff

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          • Chewy
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 18971

            #6
            2 last stupid flaws from redmond

            1. system restore just keeps building until your hard drive is full

            2. it defaults to protecting you from connecting to an unsecured wireless network

            try and find that setting!

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            • dr_ml422
              Lord of Digital Video
              Lord of Digital Video
              • May 2007
              • 1903

              #7
              Chewy I credit you 4 at least taking a look at this. My resolution still stands. vista hasn't really changed since it's inception has it? Insanity. Doing the same thing expecting different results. Didn't Doc and I have a discussion about CompUSA's closing down 4 good? Toshiba floor model? Hey someone's going to have to figure out Vista pretty soon. Good luck. That generic Windows, or Linux is looking really good and promising.
              SAMSUNG SH-S203B, SAMSUNG SH-S223F,

              Take the suggestions and follow the directions. The results will speak for themselves.



              Google is definitely our friend.

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              • Chewy
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 18971

                #8
                One of the problems I am having is with classic mode enabled the guides are hard to understand

                there have been some changes as some guides(indexing) don't apply as updates seemed to have changed vista back towards xp

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                • MilesAhead
                  Eclectician
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 2615

                  #9
                  I do have to feel bad for Vista newbies on dial-up

                  Originally Posted by Chewy
                  One of the problems I am having is with classic mode enabled the guides are hard to understand

                  there have been some changes as some guides(indexing) don't apply as updates seemed to have changed vista back towards xp
                  I do have to feel bad if anyone is trying to set up Vista generally with just a dial-up connection. What saved my sanity was being able to type in stuff like "Vista progress bar flicker" and have google find a site with the location of the Vista personalization tweaks so I could turn animation off.. that kind of stuff.

                  Pisses me off how they play musical chairs with the settings. It's like if you go to an updated website and this sharp new wallpaper is there, but then you notice it has all the same buttons... so the update is just superficial.

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                  • Chewy
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 18971

                    #10
                    well it's been an intense learning experience, I've applied most of the tweaks, not going to have time or courage to apply a black viper services cleaning

                    I did turn off restore to clean up the drive, that enabled me to downsize the system partition to 35 gigs, one way or another restores are now limited to ~5 gigs

                    cleaned up java and did a developer install of the newest

                    I have got him a 150 gig data partition setup, which eliminates one of his external drives

                    did a test with dvdflick last night, it blew thru a 1 hour 8 min avi in 35 minutes

                    did another with ac power disconnected(by accident) drained 90% in 37 minues

                    for a laptop with vista I consider this a success

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                    • pfloyd
                      Platinum Member
                      Platinum Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 165

                      #11
                      CompUSA didn't really close down. They are now the NEW Compusa. However, if you go to their new website, it is the spitting image of Tiger Direct.
                      You raise the blade,
                      You make the change,
                      You rearange me till I'm sane.
                      You lock the door, throw away
                      the key,
                      There's someone in my head
                      and it's not me.

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                      • dr_ml422
                        Lord of Digital Video
                        Lord of Digital Video
                        • May 2007
                        • 1903

                        #12
                        Originally Posted by Chewy
                        One of the problems I am having is with classic mode enabled the guides are hard to understand

                        there have been some changes as some guides(indexing) don't apply as updates seemed to have changed vista back towards xp
                        hi Chewy. you mean the updates you hooked into are specifically changing vista back to xp on that lap top? or the updates themselves are actually switching vista back to xp across the board w/e they're applied? don't tell me they've actually started to admit vista's screwed up via these revert to xp updates?
                        SAMSUNG SH-S203B, SAMSUNG SH-S223F,

                        Take the suggestions and follow the directions. The results will speak for themselves.



                        Google is definitely our friend.

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                        • Chewy
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 18971

                          #13
                          well a lot of the new features and code in vista were flawed, indexing being one of the worst

                          people reported horrible performance in transfering files, updates are trying to fix this and get performance in line with xp's

                          the guide for turning off indexing is out of date, one loop told me I couldn't and slammed the door in my face

                          another branch acted just like xp's

                          vista is a "work in progress"

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                          • dr_ml422
                            Lord of Digital Video
                            Lord of Digital Video
                            • May 2007
                            • 1903

                            #14
                            Beta believe it. I'll touch base later. Gotta run right now.
                            SAMSUNG SH-S203B, SAMSUNG SH-S223F,

                            Take the suggestions and follow the directions. The results will speak for themselves.



                            Google is definitely our friend.

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                            • MilesAhead
                              Eclectician
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 2615

                              #15
                              biggest flaw

                              Originally Posted by Chewy
                              vista is a "work in progress"
                              The biggest mistake they made when they decided to run all these background services like indexing, network shadowing, defragging etc.. is not taking into account the HD activity when deciding if your system is "busy".
                              They just look at CPU usage. It's totally bizarre when you are in the middle of a 3rd party defrag and the Vista defragger starts running!!! I mean, ya' think? Jeez!!!

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