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  • Chewy
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18971

    #16
    I just enrolled last month in 1 of the 2 major online antimalware universities, there are close to 40 forums dedicated to fighting malware

    when we see teatimer running the first thing we do is turn it off as it will keep us from fixing anything

    same for a lot of the antivirus programs

    I use the sd helper in spybot and update and immunize religiously now that I have been thru a full infection and cleansing of driveby maleware

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    • Chewy
      Super Moderator
      • Nov 2003
      • 18971

      #17
      MBAM is a very new program, doesn't work effectively in safe mode yet

      superantispyware is the other good scanner, it works in safe

      it has a special tool if used in safe mode, that can make your computer unbootable, remember malware can infest/infect system files also, if you kill them you might not reboot

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      • snagel
        Super Member
        Super Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 259

        #18
        re: Chewy

        So how did those logs look to you. Does the specific path indicated by AVG mean anything. I left the items in quarantine last night. I'll have to delete them when I get home tonight. I am not sure whether the Trojan that I already had in Virus Vault in AVG free is the same as the Trojan that was indicated in my Malwarebytes Antimalware scans last night.

        P.S. Is it better to leave them in the virus quarantine to make sure everything else runs or is it better to just delete them?
        Last edited by snagel; 6 Mar 2008, 12:53 AM. Reason: spelling

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        • Chewy
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18971

          #19
          have you had any significant malware before?

          MyWay Search Assistant
          leave it in quarantine for a while and see if some legitimate program got broken

          as malware evolves it gets harder and harder to detect without a lot of false positives

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          • snagel
            Super Member
            Super Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 259

            #20
            re: Chewy

            I've never had any malware, viruses at all that I know of. This is a first. I think that is why I was so concerned how to get rid of it. I've heard the horror stories of how Trojans rewrite themselves and keep rewriting.

            I currently use AVG free. AVG antispyware,
            Spyware Terminator, Super Antispyware, as scanners only
            Windows Defender with realtime protection
            Spybot Search and Destroy and Adaware 2007.
            and now will use Malwarebytes Antimalware after last night.

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            • snagel
              Super Member
              Super Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 259

              #21
              re: Chewy

              Originally Posted by Chewy
              have you had any significant malware before?



              leave it in quarantine for a while and see if some legitimate program got broken

              as malware evolves it gets harder and harder to detect without a lot of false positives
              Does that mean that mine was a false positive?

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              • Chewy
                Super Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 18971

                #22
                Does that mean that mine was a false positive?
                not necessarily, something may just have sneaked by

                I will run atf cleaner every now and then as a precaution before a scan if I suspect I have caught something, that way it's can't reinfect me from some temp/prefetch/cookie crud after reboot

                adaware and windows defender need a lot work

                not sure about spyware terminator?
                Last edited by Chewy; 6 Mar 2008, 03:13 AM.

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                • snagel
                  Super Member
                  Super Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 259

                  #23
                  re:Chewy

                  Originally Posted by Chewy
                  not necessarily, something may just have sneaked by

                  I will run atf cleaner every now and then as a precaution before a scan if I suspect I have caught something, that way it's can't reinfect me from some temp/prefetch/cookie crud after reboot

                  adaware and windows defender need a lot work

                  not sure about spyware terminator?

                  I have not been excited about Windows Defender for quite some time now. In fact I was just about ready to get rid of it entirely. Then I'd delegate the duties of real time protection to one of the others. More than likely that would be Super Antispyware or Spyware Terminator.

                  I'll have to check out the atf thing. (alcohol, tobacco, firearms) lol

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                  • Chewy
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 18971

                    #24
                    I like the new spybot with sd helper and immunize, what's the status of your hosts file?

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                    • snagel
                      Super Member
                      Super Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 259

                      #25
                      re: Chewy

                      Originally Posted by Chewy
                      I like the new spybot with sd helper and immunize, what's the status of your hosts file?
                      I am not sure, I am at work right now! I'll have to check it in about another 7 hours.

                      One question on spybot search and destroy. I have it already and I do have the new version. I am not sure whether I have teatimer or not when I started the program. Should I not have it? If your advice is to not have it how do you disable it? Or would I be better off deleting the old one and reinstall it again this time taking the tick mark out of the box. (unchecking) teatimer. Would it be better to take the defaults that come with that particular program or uncheck some of them.

                      I think I accepted everything. sd helper in internet explorer and teatimer.

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                      • snagel
                        Super Member
                        Super Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 259

                        #26
                        If you make changes to something in Spybot search and destroy (allow or disallow).
                        How do you reverse the changes made if you need to?

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                        • Chewy
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 18971

                          #27
                          I don't use teatimer for that reason, you can mess up a program install or uninstall and fixing it you have to redo everything and sometimes that doesn't work

                          the real protection is great if you remember to turn it off when you need to and everyone
                          remembers to deny changes when some malware tries to install

                          it's hard to know what all these programs are doing as you can create problems with duplicate protection

                          that's why I asked about the hosts file, only one program should be writting to it

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                          • snagel
                            Super Member
                            Super Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 259

                            #28
                            So last night should I have allowed or disallowed changes to IE5. that would have been the prompt that I kept getting on scans 3-7. It kept saying spybot search and destroy that there were changes made to IE5 allow or disallow. Each time I would say disallow. Then I'd do the scan again and the Adware: MyWay would keep showing up as infected. I finally said allow and then did the scan again and finally the Adware:MyWay did not show up clean scan now. Did I do right my allowing the change.

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                            • snagel
                              Super Member
                              Super Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 259

                              #29
                              re:Chewy

                              [quote=Chewy;555070]I don't use teatimer for that reason, you can mess up a program install or uninstall and fixing it you have to redo everything and sometimes that doesn't work

                              the real protection is great if you remember to turn it off when you need to and everyone
                              remembers to deny changes when some malware tries to install


                              How do you turn it off when you need to? Do you mean on Spybot? Because teatimer would be like reatime protection. or Anti-viruses

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                              • Chewy
                                Super Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 18971

                                #30
                                I just right click on it and hit exit or tell it to quit loading at boot up under tools/resident

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