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  • Chewy
    Super Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18971

    #16
    A friend with similar problems always ignored the master rule of connecting to the end of the cable, he said it didn't matter, he even had the cable reversed a time or two.

    I always play these out by the book

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    • rago88
      Digital Video Expert
      Digital Video Expert
      • Aug 2005
      • 566

      #17
      well,
      I'm wondering if the day my heatsink fan crapped out,
      and my CPU performance was maxed out at 100% and all red,
      [the PC shut down on it's own during middle of a burn at that time also]
      that I may have fried some of those 80 wires in the connector?

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      • ed klein
        Banned
        • Mar 2004
        • 880

        #18
        @Chewy

        The IDE cable master and slave connections are connected in parallel, meaning each connection gets the same voltage across the plus and minus leads which is 12 volts.

        The standard rule book says the end connection on the IDE cable is the master location and the middle connection is the slave connection.

        Just connecting one optical unit won't make any electrical difference. Connecting two units (master and slave) draws twice the current and has the potential of slowing down the speed of the units on low end computer units.

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        • ed klein
          Banned
          • Mar 2004
          • 880

          #19
          @rago88

          Im I understanding correctly, you are putting two Plextor 716A, IDE connection, optical burners on the same computer?

          I would think you would have conflicts, especially when it comes to firmware updates. With Plextor web-site, firmware updates to your desktop, and then execute the firmware update. The firmware update from Plextor doesn't know which Plextor to update, one or both.

          Even if you had one 716A IDE model and one 716SA sata model, the firmware update is the same and I would think that would cause conflicts.

          Even if one Plextor is on the primary IDE cable and the other Plextor is on the secondary IDE cable I see a potential for conflicts.

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          • Chewy
            Super Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 18971

            #20
            The standard rule book says the end connection on the IDE cable is the master location and the middle connection is the slave connection.
            my friend would reverse this and tell me it didn't matter

            I charged him a retainer fee the last time he asked for help, he paid it

            2 units on the same power lead has the potential to draw the available voltage down below the minimum
            Last edited by Chewy; 28 Aug 2008, 04:29 AM.

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            • ed klein
              Banned
              • Mar 2004
              • 880

              #21
              @Chewy,

              Yes, just like you said you want to maintain the rated voltage of the optical units at 12 volts at all four locations of IDE connections.

              The power supply of the computer a version maybe 500 to 800 watt power supply. When you plug the power supply into the 115-120 volt AC outlet the output side going to the computer, will be approximately 13 to 13.5 volts to allow for voltage drops, resistance of the wire so that downstream the optical units actually get a full rated 12 volts input potential to operate properly.

              All optical units located anywhere in the computer IDE or SATA or hard drives should get a full rated 12 volts to operate properly. And the source voltage supply should be high enought (13 to 13.5) to get 12 volts downstream to the units.
              Last edited by ed klein; 28 Aug 2008, 05:12 AM.

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              • rago88
                Digital Video Expert
                Digital Video Expert
                • Aug 2005
                • 566

                #22
                In Plextor Professional main screen,
                It shows [ or did until I un-installed the slave] both Plextor units.

                When I would click on the master,
                all the info plus latest firmware version would be there..
                same with clicking on the slave.
                There has not been a Plextor update for this unit in over a year since it was discontinued.... 3/23/07 to be exact.

                it was much later that I started using a 2nd plextor in my PC.
                Could be why no conflict.
                never updated firmware for both at same time since the 1st unit,[master] was already installed long ago with latest and last firmware.. make sense???

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                • rago88
                  Digital Video Expert
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                  • Aug 2005
                  • 566

                  #23
                  ok...
                  so far, so good...
                  only using 1 plextor for now to read/burn..
                  holding at Ultra DMA 4.....

                  May just leave it that way as I noticed the reading of a disc is much faster.....

                  I assume 1 optical drive will get more rpm power than sharing it with 2 optical drives on the secondary channel
                  or something to that effect

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                  • Chewy
                    Super Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 18971

                    #24
                    it might be there's not enough amps for 2 drives

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                    • rago88
                      Digital Video Expert
                      Digital Video Expert
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 566

                      #25
                      I did put in a 550 watt PS while ago..

                      wouldn't that be plenty to go around?

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                      • Chewy
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 18971

                        #26
                        it would depend on the brand and specs

                        claimed watts is misleading

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                        • NightTran
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                          King of Digital Video
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 4224

                          #27
                          is two identical burners have any thing to do with it?
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                          • Chewy
                            Super Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 18971

                            #28
                            I have had matched dvd burners in a few computers, only plextor premium cd burners

                            Never an issue, I did disconnect one if I was upgrading firmware but not always

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                            • rago88
                              Digital Video Expert
                              Digital Video Expert
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 566

                              #29
                              well, I sorta plan to enable the slave Plextor..
                              But as Soprano's Big Pussy used to say,
                              "maybe". "If."

                              It really appears to read a disc so much faster just using the 1 Plextor for source/destination..
                              use Imageburn to write...

                              my read speeds at times are 1500 mb/s and above..
                              my slave [same Plextor 716A] never seemed to come near as fast to read when using it as source for on the fly setup...
                              most times about half the above read speed..
                              Last edited by rago88; 7 Sep 2008, 02:20 AM.

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