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  • dazuk1972
    Digital Video Specialist
    Digital Video Specialist
    • Jul 2005
    • 853

    Wide Screen Monitor

    I just bought a Wide Screen monitor and I can't get the Wide Screen going. I had to change the setting to the 4:3 Full Frame because the so-called Wide Screen setting is the 14:9 where people's faces are oval-shaped and when I play a DVD that is made in the 1:85 ratio, it doesn't fill the whole screen as it's supposted to. All the frames of film are stretched outwards and I still have black bars at the top and bottom of the screen. The Wide Screen monitors like Wide Screen TV's are made in a 1:85 ratio Wide Screen and my monitor doesn't allow the 16:9 setting to allow the 1:85 to fill the whole screen without black bars. Is there a setting in my PC to change this to correct it or is my PC not compatable for Wide Screen? I must add, when I bought my PC, it came with a Full Frame monitor.

    Many thanks.
  • admin
    Administrator
    • Nov 2001
    • 8951

    #2
    What is the native resolution of your monitor?

    So your graphics card driver settings won't allow widescreen output? There isn't for example a setting to set the resolution of the desktop to the native resolution of your monitor? What kind of graphics card are you using?

    Assuming you've updated to the latest graphics card drivers, some older cards won't support certain resolutions, and if it is really old, then it might not support widescreen resolutions at all. Even some of the newer cards, like my Radeon HD 4850, won't support certain 16:9 resolutions (like 1600x900) natively (but it does support 1920x1080, which is the native resolution of my monitor). The graphics card drivers sometimes come with tools that allows you to set custom resolutions, and along with the "image scaling" option, allows you to fill the entire monitor with picture.
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    • katzdvd
      Lord of Digital Video
      Lord of Digital Video
      • Feb 2006
      • 2198

      #3
      As admin stated, it could be that your graphics card is a bit too old to properly run the monitor settings. If you R click on the desktop, Properties>settings. Can you select a screen resolution such as 1024 x 768?

      That is what I run my 22" WS monitor at & I am happy with the results.

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      • PrinceBytore
        Member
        Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 51

        #4
        Hope this helps.

        Most WideScreen computer monitors are NOT 16/9, they are 16/10, therefore when watching, let's say widescreen TV on the monoitor you will have small black bars on top and bottom. If watching an anamorphic DVD on the same monitor you will have bigger black bars on top and bottom.

        1024 X 768 is a 4/3 resolution, a good 16/10 resolution would be 1440 X 900.
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        • dazuk1972
          Digital Video Specialist
          Digital Video Specialist
          • Jul 2005
          • 853

          #5
          Many thanks to everyone for the info. I did check the screen settings under Display Properties and the Advanced section that also mentioned wide screen and I thought I found the solution but the screen sizes only go up to 1440 x 900. It seems like I need to upgrade my graphics card as you mentioned, admin.

          Many thanks again, everyone.

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          • atifsh
            Lord of Digital Video
            Lord of Digital Video
            • May 2003
            • 1534

            #6
            dazuk u didnt mention size of ur lcd... 19" lcd only goes upto 1440/900 thats the native resolution of 19" 16:10 lcd.

            the admins lcd is newer 16:9 24" lcd i assume.
            Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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            • admin
              Administrator
              • Nov 2001
              • 8951

              #7
              1440x900 should give you a widescreen desktop (it's 16:10), are you able to select this option? What's the brand/model of your monitor?

              Most monitors are 16:10, whereas widescreen TVs are 16:9.
              Last edited by admin; 4 Jul 2009, 06:22 PM.
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              • copyless
                Digital Video Expert
                Digital Video Expert
                • Apr 2006
                • 713

                #8
                Yeah, most of the ones that are actually 16:9 that I have seen are usually sold or advertised as 1080p, and as atifsh pointed out normally 24" or larger.

                I have a 23.6" monitor that is 16:9 and I don't think it said anything about widescreen anywhere, I am pretty sure it only advertised 1080p, 16:9 true cinematic, things like this, but not wide screen. The 16:9 monitors usually point out this fact.

                At least this was the case when I bought mine, whcih has been a while now.

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                • dazuk1972
                  Digital Video Specialist
                  Digital Video Specialist
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 853

                  #9
                  Originally Posted by atifsh
                  dazuk u didnt mention size of ur lcd... 19" lcd only goes upto 1440/900 thats the native resolution of 19" 16:10 lcd.

                  the admins lcd is newer 16:9 24" lcd i assume.
                  Sorry I forgot that bit. It goes up to 1440 x 900 maximum. That what it said under Settings in Display Properties. I found the same in the advanced section. I went in the tab called Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver and clicked on the icon that says Graphics Properties. Then I chose Display Settings. There's an option in there called Maintain Aspect Ratio and there's a tiny picture of a screen next to it showing wide screen. When I checkpoint it, all it does is creates a big thick border around my screen. Then I have you cancel it and go back to the full frame. This is when I realise I need a better graphics card after admin suggested it. By the way, it only goes up to 1440 x 900 maximum there as well.

                  Many thanks.
                  Last edited by dazuk1972; 5 Jul 2009, 07:23 AM.

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                  • dazuk1972
                    Digital Video Specialist
                    Digital Video Specialist
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 853

                    #10
                    Originally Posted by admin
                    1440x900 should give you a widescreen desktop (it's 16:10), are you able to select this option? What's the brand/model of your monitor?

                    Most monitors are 16:10, whereas widescreen TVs are 16:9.
                    You might need to read my message that I wrote to atifsh as well. My monitor is made by Cibox. Model number C1907. Click here to see it at Amazon. There's only two screen setting in the monitor and that's the Full Frame that stretches the look of my screen to fill the whole of the monitor screen and it has Native that puts things normal with a black margin on the left and right of my screen. That is odd because that is supposed to be the Full Frame as the 4:3. The other setting is supposed to be the 16:9 but that is when it makes my screen like the 14:9.

                    Many thanks.

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                    • dazuk1972
                      Digital Video Specialist
                      Digital Video Specialist
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 853

                      #11
                      Originally Posted by copyless
                      Yeah, most of the ones that are actually 16:9 that I have seen are usually sold or advertised as 1080p, and as atifsh pointed out normally 24" or larger.

                      I have a 23.6" monitor that is 16:9 and I don't think it said anything about widescreen anywhere, I am pretty sure it only advertised 1080p, 16:9 true cinematic, things like this, but not wide screen. The 16:9 monitors usually point out this fact.

                      At least this was the case when I bought mine, whcih has been a while now.
                      The problem when they use different codes for screen settings with a monitor than a wide screen TV it can make things confusing. I expected the same amount of screen settings in my monitor that a wide screen TV has so that I can choose one of my choice but with only two settings I'm stuck with the 4:3 at the moment. It's strange why the manual on the CD-ROM doesn't work and I'm going to contact Cibox about that.

                      Many thanks.

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                      • copyless
                        Digital Video Expert
                        Digital Video Expert
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 713

                        #12
                        Your monitor is definitely 1440x900, so this is the setting it needs to be set on. You should be able to go into the monitors menu and re-size the screen to fit, if not then you may try to de-select maintain the aspect ratio.

                        Either way your monitor is only capable of displaying 1440x900, so it is a 16:10 monitor (widescreen), not 16:9 (1080p).

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                        • dazuk1972
                          Digital Video Specialist
                          Digital Video Specialist
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 853

                          #13
                          Originally Posted by copyless
                          Your monitor is definitely 1440x900, so this is the setting it needs to be set on. You should be able to go into the monitors menu and re-size the screen to fit, if not then you may try to de-select maintain the aspect ratio.

                          Either way your monitor is only capable of displaying 1440x900, so it is a 16:10 monitor (widescreen), not 16:9 (1080p).
                          I went into my Display Properties again a few hours ago and changed my sreen setting to 1440 x 900 and I went to change the setting in my monitor to see what happens and the screen settings never appeared. Then I realised my screen-change-setting under Display Properties caused the screen setting to go in my monitor. When I put my screen setting back to 1152 x 864 through Display Properties, the screen settings were back in my monitor for me to choose. Just when I thought I might have cracked it, something else got in the way.

                          Many thanks.

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                          • admin
                            Administrator
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 8951

                            #14
                            So when you select 1440x900 in Display Properties, your monitor goes blank?

                            Go into the Advanced section, Intel GMA driver settings again (go to Display Settings), and change the resolution from there (make sure the refresh rate is at 60 Hz) and see what happens.

                            Have you updated the Intel GMA drivers? You might need to first find out what type of integrated GPU is on your motherboard (eg. Intel GMA 950) and then get the latest drivers for it from Intel.com.
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                            • atifsh
                              Lord of Digital Video
                              Lord of Digital Video
                              • May 2003
                              • 1534

                              #15
                              ok intel graphics with widescreen monitors is hell, if it start playing with u. once i had to reinstall windows just to fix easy, cause it was making be go crazy.

                              inshort, u need newer drivers, not from windows update, but the one from intel.com. thats going to fix it.
                              as admin said check ur refresh rate and fix it to 60. also see if ur using some monitor drivers from ur old monitor or something. uninstall / delete those from device manager. then restart and start praying
                              Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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