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  • dazuk1972
    Digital Video Specialist
    Digital Video Specialist
    • Jul 2005
    • 853

    Why Are These Files So Large?

    Why is it when I want to render a video file up to about two hours under AVI or MPEG2 the size of the render would be about 39GB's? That is too large. I have an AVI ripper and I can rip about two hours with that and the file size is about 1.30GB's. Why is when I want to render to AVI or MPEG2 with any video eidting software the files are way too big such as 39GB's?

    Many thanks.
  • admin
    Administrator
    • Nov 2001
    • 8946

    #2
    Are you encoding to an uncompressed AVI file? That would explain the large file size, although it shouldn't happen when you're encoding to MPEG-2 (unless you're using a crazy resolution and/or bitrate).
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    • dazuk1972
      Digital Video Specialist
      Digital Video Specialist
      • Jul 2005
      • 853

      #3
      Originally Posted by admin
      Are you encoding to an uncompressed AVI file? That would explain the large file size, although it shouldn't happen when you're encoding to MPEG-2 (unless you're using a crazy resolution and/or bitrate).
      I don't know if it's uncompressed or not. I've never noticed an option in any video editing software that allows us to compress. I've tried using Ulead Video Studio, Sony Vegas, Pinnacle Studio and Cyberlink Power Director. The only software that I know of that can save to AVI with a smaller file size is Magic DVD Ripper but that isn't for editing. I only use it for converting any home movies back to AVI for a re-edit when I need to.

      The problem I'm having is incredible. Why would these software makers design thier video editing software to render two hours of footage so big when there's no way it can be burnt to a DVD disc.

      By the way, I'm not using HD. I know that sounds dumb but I still can't afford all this HD stuff. I mentioned HD encase you thought I was using that and I know HD does use a lot more disc space. Also, I've never even known two hours of HD footage to use-up as much as 39GB's.

      Many thanks.
      Last edited by dazuk1972; 3 Aug 2010, 06:34 AM.

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      • admin
        Administrator
        • Nov 2001
        • 8946

        #4
        I can't say much about the other tools, but I remember PowerDirector not allowing you to save anything other than DV-AVI if the production is widescreen. But it does support MPEG-2, and once you select that, you can select a "profile quality" (for example, DVD HQ), which will use a bitrate of around 8000 kbps, roughly that of commercial DVDs. And you can burn straight to disc from PowerDirector as well, or even upload to YouTube.

        For the other tools, there should be an option to export to MPEG-2 at the very least, and there should be options to export to AVI using DivX or XviD. When you go to export/save the file, check the available file types, and there might also be an option to customize or choose the save options, which is where you can usually select which codec to use. For Pinnacle Studios, I found this guide which may be of help:

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        • paglamon
          Lord of Digital Video
          Lord of Digital Video
          • Aug 2005
          • 2126

          #5
          I've never noticed an option in any video editing software that allows us to compress. I've tried using Ulead Video Studio, Sony Vegas, Pinnacle Studio and Cyberlink Power Director.
          On the contrary, ALL of them allow for compression.
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          • dazuk1972
            Digital Video Specialist
            Digital Video Specialist
            • Jul 2005
            • 853

            #6
            Originally Posted by admin
            I can't say much about the other tools, but I remember PowerDirector not allowing you to save anything other than DV-AVI if the production is widescreen. But it does support MPEG-2, and once you select that, you can select a "profile quality" (for example, DVD HQ), which will use a bitrate of around 8000 kbps, roughly that of commercial DVDs. And you can burn straight to disc from PowerDirector as well, or even upload to YouTube.

            For the other tools, there should be an option to export to MPEG-2 at the very least, and there should be options to export to AVI using DivX or XviD. When you go to export/save the file, check the available file types, and there might also be an option to customize or choose the save options, which is where you can usually select which codec to use. For Pinnacle Studios, I found this guide which may be of help:

            http://support.divx.com/faq/view/sup..._with_pinnacle
            I have Pinnacle Studios 14 and what's in that link that you sent is slightly different to my version. When I clicked on Make Movie and Settings, there's no Video Setting where I can place a tick under Include Video in AVI File and List all Codecs. At the moment i have a movie of mine that's three-and-a-half but it's going to be 44.6GB's. I can't make it smaller. When I clicked on Settings and under the Make File tab, it says DV in the compression section. When I select DV under Make Movie the file size is a lot smaller but too small. I can't place AVI or MPEG2 under compression.

            Many thanks.

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            • dazuk1972
              Digital Video Specialist
              Digital Video Specialist
              • Jul 2005
              • 853

              #7
              Originally Posted by paglamon
              On the contrary, ALL of them allow for compression.
              The problem is where the setting is in all of these.

              Many thanks.

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              • paglamon
                Lord of Digital Video
                Lord of Digital Video
                • Aug 2005
                • 2126

                #8
                The problem is where the setting is in all of these.
                I use Corel Video Studio(formerly Ulead ). In CVS,open your file in the timeline.Then click on "Share".Then select "Create video file".Then select "Custom".Now suppose you want an XviD avi file.From the drop down menu in "save as type" select "Microsoft avi files" and click on "Options".Now you will get another window "video save options".Here ,under "AVI", you will find the necessary compression codecs.
                Similar options are present in all the leading video editors.
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                • admin
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 8946

                  #9
                  Perhaps this tutorial video about the Pinnacle Studio 14 could be of help, it has a section on how to use "Make Movie":

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                  It seems like you select "File", then change file type to "DivX" (don't use AVI, as that I think only allows you to create DV-AVI files, which will explain the large file size). If the DivX option is not available, in wonder if this is because you'll need to purchase the DivX codec? In that case, I would just use MPEG-2, and then you can convert to DivX using a free tool.
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                  • CameraswAtching
                    Junior Member
                    Junior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1

                    #10
                    I'm so sick of all these cameras that don't compress the video any better than they do. I remember when you could compress a 2 hour movie into a 500 MB file with fairly decent quality, now when you take a minute video, it's a silly 100 mb file.

                    I really do belive they do this so that the masses aren't out videotaping things too much, getting too much evidence, just like they will sent out goons to stalk you if you are taking pictures of government buildings now. They have cameras watching all of you, 24 hours a day, that can compress weeks of video onto a hard disk, but they don't want you to be able to really do much with your computers.

                    It's just like the adobe flash player options, they have fake controls that you can't really use, they are just there to make you feel like you are in control. Even the new operating systems are now like this, a bunch of phony controls that don't really do anything, but they've removed a lot of the stuff that actually gave you control over your computer.


                    This coupled with your rinky dink upload speed means it will discourage people from uploading their videos to the internet at least. I takes me 30 minutes to upload a 100mb file that is 3 minutes of video, and there's no reason given for why you're upload speed is only a tenth of your download speed.
                    Last edited by CameraswAtching; 21 Nov 2012, 01:45 PM.

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