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  • maesstro
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 7

    #16
    Didn't catch time to rerun it at constant bitrate. I'll try it today evening (currently at work).
    Didn't run it through TMPGEnc either.
    What exactly is a DVD compliant mpeg? If I exported the file from Ulead MSP according to DVD PAL settings shouldn't it be a DVD compliant mpeg file?
    Anyhow, the video is a 720X576, 8000 vbr: audio 48kHz / 320 kbit/s.

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    • sfheath
      Lord of Digital Video
      Lord of Digital Video
      • Sep 2003
      • 2399

      #17
      Yup, according to http://www.videohelp.com/dvd your numbers sound right .. just not so sure about the vbr.
      This isn't a learning curve ... this is b****y mountaineering!

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      • NCSP
        Junior Member
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2005
        • 3

        #18
        I have a similar problem, but it didn't occur with my home movies (miniDV), it's only been a problem when I've tried to convert and burn a mpg file onto DVD.
        I have pinnacle instant cd/dvd, which is easy to use and great for home movies, but for other formats it's a nightmare.

        In my case, the audio and video become increasingly out of sync as the disc plays, but it's OK during the editing process.

        No clue what to do about it - advice most welcome!

        I have a AMD 3.3 processor, 512 ram and win XP.

        Could the fact that the mpg probably came from a NTSC VCR tape and I've been trying to burn it in PAL be the problem, or is that a different thing altogether?

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        • reboot
          Digital Video Expert
          Digital Video Expert
          • Apr 2004
          • 695

          #19
          Could the fact that the mpg probably came from a NTSC VCR tape and I've been trying to burn it in PAL be the problem, or is that a different thing altogether?
          Exactly.

          To the OP (maesstro): Is it possible this file was at one time in two pieces, and someone joined them? This could definitely cause the first bit to be in sync, and the second bit not.
          Easiest fix would be to rip the audio out, find the point where it goes out, and add a bit of "dead air" in something like Goldwave.
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          • NCSP
            Junior Member
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2005
            • 3

            #20
            Oh well, I tried using NTSC, made no difference (if anything slightly worse)!

            Is this a Pinnacle thing?

            Because I like the principle pf the package, me being a newbie at digital video, and the menu's are quite good.
            But as far as I know you can't export the finished product and burn using a different program, and win movie maker won't recognise my DVD burner, probably because of pinnacle.

            Grrrrrr.

            I gather DVDshrink is good for basic DVD making, but how about menu's?

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            • blutach
              Not a god of digital video
              • Oct 2004
              • 24627

              #21
              TMPGenc. DVD Author (free trial for 30 days) can make menus for you. You could also try titlewriter, free on these boards, or even Nero Vision Express.

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              Les

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              • davey_n
                Junior Member
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2005
                • 1

                #22
                I am sorry to see there has been a problem with this audio time lapse thing, but pleased to see that someone else is having a very similar problem to myself. As a VERY new user of Digital Video, I have tried Movie Shaker, Pinnacle and Ulead with varying results. I prefer Ulead as the results seem far more reliable to the other systems, but have almost exactly the same problem - audio out of sync. In fact I'm only on this board/ forum due to a web Google search along these lines
                Anyway, my contribution is this - a while ago (9 months?) I tried to sort this audio problem through web research before trying Pinnacle, and read somewhere that the problem may have something to do with the clock on the graphics card not being in sync with the clock of the CPU, or a similar synchronisation problem. Looking at the technical knowledge of the other contributors - far in advance of my own - maybe someone out there mught be able to expand on this since it seems as though a load of other solutions have been tried. Even with my basic knowledge, this could give rise to a steady 'slippage' of synchronisation if the both are used for independent tasks within video rendering. I know that its isn't a problem with burning as a mpeg file saved on the hard drive yeilds similar 'slippage' problems. Any of you technical types like to comment?

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                • NCSP
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 3

                  #23
                  Well, when I first started messing around with digital video, I tried to get an avi (DivX) file onto a DVD, using pinnacle (which can't handle DivX), so I used some program off the web to change it to a different avi format, or ampeg file, and in both cases the audio & video were out of sync on the hard drive after conversion. Whereas this time they're OK on the hard drive, it's only the burnt DVD that's out.

                  I've more or less solved the problem:

                  -convert file to avi/dvd format using windows movie maker
                  -split into audio/video tracks using cool edit pro, then mix to different avi format.
                  -pinnacle instant cd/dvd can handle this new avi file - although there are still problems creating menu's (the chapter images are filled with coloured lines instead of the chosen image).

                  But at least the dvd is playable!

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                  • trippynet
                    Junior Member
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 2

                    #24
                    It's a problem I'm also having and I've narrowed it down to the "Padding Stream" you often get when capturing video from a device such as a TV card, DV Camera, etc. Go into TMPGEnc and go into the Demultiplex part. Open the MPEG and there'll probably be a third packing stream listed. Extract it and if it's more than a K or so in size, there's your problem.

                    Unfortunately, I don't know the solution. That's something I'm busy trying to find out myself.

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