TitleWriter 4.72 - *** Update 31 July 2008, ***

[tetsuro_ja]

Thanks for TestBed6_3_2.

I caught a cold and had fallen asleep. Sorry for my too late report.

1) I created 1 VTS 5 ttn (no menu) by using DVDAuthorGUI.
2) I added 1 ttn as New 'Play All' title by using PgcEdit.
3) I remapped the 'Play All' title as pgcn-1 ttn-1 title-1 by PgcEdit.
4) I added Menus to this DVD compilation (1 VTS 6 ttn) by using TW TestBed6_3_2.

All installed players including Nero ShowTime can play back this DVD compilation without any trouble. Extra 1 to 5 buttons work well.

To jinjin_jp

In my computer, there is no problem about seek of MS Windows Media Player (WMP).
I think, however, WMP is not suitable for testing because DirectShow filters used by WMP are different according to PC.

[FallenAngel]

Blutach -- TW is a bit smarter then you might think

Seek bar would indicate a bad time map (or PUO set)

Many Other things also

No whats bugging me is not that the seek isn't working (ANY ms proggie is usually crap/bloatware)
but that WMP behavior isn't consistent pre/post TW "tinkering" with a DVD.
That could easily be a symptom -- or absolutely nothing .

(And TW is checking/modifying certain TMAPTI table entries as part of its import menu routine)
I've hit a number of iffy DVD's where that table was off here and there at critical points

And given that I just rewrote so much code In the last few testbeds -- and the idiot typos i've made -- A bit of testing doesn't hurt

As an Aside Blutach
I can't consider Any other code to be "The Bible" of DVD management --PgcEdit /Remake included -- While they may be following the "Spec" to the letter the Hardware manufacturers aren't.
And as time goes on the chips in the players "drift" more and more
I'm trying to cover what a broad spectrum of hardware actually does with a dvd -- Sometimes it has nothing to do with the Spec and much of the ahem "Critical info" in vobs/ifos is ignored/useless

JinJin_jp
Damn -- Same Version as I'm using and you don't have the problem.
Must be My Source Dvd files Pre Recode -- FreeZone R1 -- or another blasted regional difference in Software MS puts out.

Tetsuro_ja -- I didn't even think about the driver differences

One More test and I'll know if its solid

[FallenAngel]

Okay found it -- Debugged WMP -- Combination of Bad Code in WMP and some screwy DirectShow filter MS installed (without my Knowledge)-- So its Ms again

[blutach]

Okay found it -- Debugged WMP -- Combination of Bad Code in WMP and some screwy DirectShow filter MS installed (without my Knowledge)-- So its Ms again

Good to hear.

And I agree, many players, especially cheap ones, are well off spec.

Regards

[dirio49]

if you don't mind me asking how do you create TTNS? with what?
thanks

[blutach]

@dirio49

You can actually do it with Ifoedit or PgcEdit or DVDRMP quite easily.

Regards

[FallenAngel]

Dirio_49
Simplified --- ttn's are vts vobs "broken up" into subsections (there is always at least 1 if there is a vts_nn_0x.vob)
Recode >> Merge is an example. Squish can't do it. Recode has foibles
(Actually all Nero software has foibles)
DVDAuthor can
And I think DVDRemakePro can (I'm not sure -- I don't use much besides TW and Squish) (And I don't have DRP)
PgcEdit can -- But Again theres that learning curve and effort per DVD
Its a way to subsection or organize things into a single VTS
I really don't find it all that useful except for possibly extremely complex interaction menus -- I prefer to break content up by Squish Vts -- KISS

I really only coded ttn support because Tetsuro_ja sort of Lightly slapped my face with a glove pushing things as far as he did. (Just Fooling)

[FallenAngel]

Blutach

And I agree, many players, especially cheap ones, are well off spec.

You didn't quite get what I was refering to.
I've purposely created tables with garbage in them -- burned and they play fine in ALL modern players -- Think about it --

So its not a matter of being off spec -- but that the spec is evolving as they simplify chips -- Redundant data complexity is being discarded
Unused/worthless options paths lost

The Hardware Design Spec for Playing a DVD is Evolving not a constant

And won't that make things interesting

[tetsuro_ja]

How to return Chapter Scene indicating playing chapter when the 'chapter menu' button of Remote Controller is pushed. (tentative plan)

1. Add the following dummy menu as Chapter Menu.

********** pre commands:
   1  Set gprm(5) =(mov) sprm(7) 
   2  if ( gprm(5) == 0 ) then { Set gprm(5) =(mov) 1 } 
   3  Set gprm(6) =(mov) gprm(5) 
   4  Set gprm(6) %=(mod) N  // N is number of chapters per page
   5  if ( gprm(6) == 0 ) then { Set gprm(6) =(mov) N }
   6  Set gprm(6) *=(mul) 1024 
   7  Set gprm(5) +=(add) (N-1)
   8  Set grrm(5) /=(div) N
   9  if ( gprm(5) == 1 ) then LinkPGCN PGC 2  // to chapter selection page 1
  10  if ( gprm(5) == 2 ) then LinkPGCN PGC 3  // to chapter selection page 2
   :        :

2. Change pre-commands of Chapter selection page 1, 2, ...

********** pre commands:
   1  (SetHL_BTN) Set Highlighted Button =(mov) gprm(6) 
   2  Set gprm(6) =(mov) 1024

3. The button command of 'Scenes' button in RootMenu must be changed to PGCN of ChapterMenu.

[FallenAngel]

Tetsuro_ja
Re Muxman gui ifos -- Found it -- Did you hand edit those files post Muxman (or delete menu files before TW)
The Ifo shows the existance of menu vob files (VMGM VMGM_PGCI_UT table exists)
Tw traps menu existance by checking for video_ts.vob or any vts_xx_0.vob file (fast and dirty) it assumes the tables match the files
If you deleted those files yes you would fool make menu and yes strange things would happen when you tried to import the new menu -- The tables would already be there.

TW can't (and never will) remove/replace a menu -- Way beyond typical newbie scope

You should have gone into say PgcEdit and removed the menu then saved then TW

I'm going to add some traps to check for this (extremely odd/bad) situation

Remember TW must have a compliant DVD when it starts and this ones buggered up good.

As to the above Chapter bit -- I feel that glove swishing towards me
I guess it couldn't hurt -- But the code base is getting up there in this module
And TW may have many instances running.

If this keeps up I'll have to bust it Up --Probably into seperate Apps -- I prefer not to go there.

[FallenAngel]

tetsuro_ja -- Uploaded testbed6_5 chapter tweak included --lightly tested
goes to last ch page -- but on my players the mouse position resets button highlight so fast I can't tell if the right button is highlighted. Goodnight

[jinjin_jp]

Testbed6_5 can't process by error.
(Previous testbed had no problem.)

Message was shown in DOS window like below.
*******************************************
C:\DVD_PROGRAM\TITLEWRITERREV4_31\TOOLS>dvdauthor -x "C:\DVD_TEST\TEST_TW_5T\Tit
lewriter\Menu\dvdauthor.xml"\dvdauthor.xml
DVDAuthor::dvdauthor, version 0.6.13.
Build options: gnugetopt iconv freetype
Send bugs to <dvdauthor-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
19 [main] dvdauthor 1860 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLAT
ION
1604 [main] dvdauthor 1860 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to dvdauth
or.exe.stackdump
C:\DVD_PROGRAM\TITLEWRITERREV4_31\TOOLS>if errorlevel 1 goto error
C:\DVD_PROGRAM\TITLEWRITERREV4_31\TOOLS>pause
続行するには何かキーを押してください . . .
************************************************** *

And message shown in GUI is like below(last 3 lines)
***********************************
Building Dvd
Thread slow or Paused -- Displaying Sub Tread
On Menu Creation -- Error
***********************************

Regards

[tetsuro_ja]

Thanks for Testbed6_5.

I have now tried Testbed6_5 for only one DVD compilation.

Did you change contents of MakeDvd.bat ?
CreateMenu seems to fail unless line 1 in MakeDvd.bat

dvdauthor -x %1\dvdauthor.xml

is changed to

dvdauthor -x %1

Good Night,
I will try Testbed6_5 for various DVD compilations tomorrow.

As to Muxman gui ifos,

Re Muxman gui ifos -- Found it -- Did you hand edit those files post Muxman (or delete menu files before TW)

I did it. If dummy menus were deleted by PgcEdit, menus were created and imported by TW.

The Ifo shows the existance of menu vob files (VMGM VMGM_PGCI_UT table exists)
Tw traps menu existance by checking for video_ts.vob or any vts_xx_0.vob file (fast and dirty) it assumes the tables match the files

The DVD compilation authored by GUI of Muxman free version has dummy menus but has neither video_ts.vob nor vts_xx_0.vob.

TW can't (and never will) remove/replace a menu -- Way beyond typical newbie scope
You should have gone into say PgcEdit and removed the menu then saved then TW

I see. Thanks.

[dirio49]

I keep on getting failures. I am using the latest testbed

C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\user\MY DOCUMENTS\TITLEWRITERVER4_11\TOOLS>dvdauthor
-x "E:\THE_MOVIE\Titlewriter\Menu\dvdauthor.xml"\dvdauthor.xml
DVDAuthor::dvdauthor, version 0.6.13.
Build options: gnugetopt iconv freetype
Send bugs to <dvdauthor-users@lists.sourceforge.net>

      5 [main] dvdauthor 3136 handle_exceptions: Exception: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLAT
ION
   9703 [main] dvdauthor 3136 open_stackdumpfile: Dumping stack trace to dvdauth
or.exe.stackdump

C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\user\MY DOCUMENTS\TITLEWRITERVER4_11\TOOLS>if errorle
vel 1 goto error

C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\user\MY DOCUMENTS\TITLEWRITERVER4_11\TOOLS>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

[dirio49]

@FA.
The highlight seems to be wrong. I mean it highlights the last chapter everytime ( that can be reached by that chapter menu), not the one that was played
I.E
if i play chapter 3, can go to chapter menu, the highlight is on chapter 6.
Chapter menu goes form 1 --> 6