suggestions for long movies

[ger@co]

the compression comes in around 53%, whether full backup or movie only

In addition to what jmet has stated, this indicates that you are dealing with a dual layer and not single layer disc. If it was a single layer, the compression would be 100%, that is, no compression.

Later.

[sandenscot]

well, it is a movie I bought used from blockbuster...just so you know...but it says disc one....and when you run Shrink it shows something like 53 mb of menus and .1 of extras...I realize that this is strange but there are virtually no extras...and the move is like over 7 gb .......so spitting seemed to be the best way....and it is a DV5........others must have this issue....there are movies that are 3 hours long.....one would think you need to split to preserve the quality right?

[setarip]

"the move is like over 7 gb"

"and it is a DV5........"

No - it's a DVD9. A single-sided DOUBLE-layered DVD.

A DVD5 can only hold 4.37Gb of data - A single-sided, single-layered DVD.

[sandenscot]

you are right, I missed the obvious....it would have to be double layer.....as my kids say...duh.......thanks

[setarip]

"thanks"

My pleasure ;>}

[Rockas]

Re: suggestions for long movies

Originally posted by sandenscot
looking to back up a really long movie...(forest gump).no extras really to delete and the only way the movie will fit is with 52% compression...is the only way around this to split the movie?..probably a rhetorical question...just curious of what others do with long movies...thanks

You can use DVD Rebuilder... you'll get the best quality (if you don't want to spend money on CCE Basic ($58) my advice is that you use HC Encoder or QuEnc... they are free and will give you a superb quality - even if you use "One Pass w/vbr analisys" - use the Rebuilder's Installer available on www.dvd-rb.com and you'll get all the free encoders.

[blutach]

Read the Compression FAQ: http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...threadid=45129

Also, yes, you should split. A few ways - use DVDFab (free at www.mrbass.org/dvdfab/) which gives you a menu on disk 1. Or use IfoEdit: see here.

The best way is to use VobBlanker - a guide is on the site - see my sig.


Regards

[laserfan]

Originally posted by sandenscot
well, it is a movie I bought used from blockbuster...

Not sure why you want to bother backing this up to two writable DVDs, but it seems to me the very easiest way to do this is to simply Reauthor (w/DVD Shrink) to movie-only (with the sound/subtitle you want) then pick a point (chapter) at which you want to split the movie--there are lots of good places to transition Gump--then burn half at a time.

Save your original for those (few) times when you want to look at the extras.

For REALLY long movies, you might have to go to 3 discs, but with Shrink you always have complete control over the compression you use (incl no compression at all if that's what you want, to assure yourself of "no problems").

Oh, along the way, don't forget to make sure Shrink's "remove layer break" option is checked.

[blutach]

Originally posted by laserfan
For REALLY long movies, you might have to go to 3 discs,

You will never need to do this. One dual layer disk is 7.95Gb, 2 single layer ones are 8.7Gb.

Originally posted by laserfan
Oh, along the way, don't forget to make sure Shrink's "remove layer break" option is checked.

Good idea if you are using this methodology.

Regards

[setarip]

To laserfan

"For REALLY long movies, you might have to go to 3 discs"

Of course you are correct, for those rare extremely long movies that occupy two double-layered discs (or, as I've seen on even rarer occasions, one double-layered plus one single-layered disc)...

[wts]

If you're not going to use any compression is there any reason to use any program(dvdrb,dvdfab) other than shrink if all you're interested in is just the main movie. Are these other programs better at compression than shrink.


ONe other question, I have DVD43 installed, should I close it before using DVDD. I haven't closed it before and haven't noticed any problems, but I rather be safe than sorry. And how do you rip straight from shrink with DVD43 running.

Thanks

[nwg]

Originally posted by wts


ONe other question, I have DVD43 installed, should I close it before using DVDD. I haven't closed it before and haven't noticed any problems, but I rather be safe than sorry. And how do you rip straight from shrink with DVD43 running.

Thanks

Leave DVD43 running in the system tray when using Shrink. Just use Shrink's "open disc" and DVD43 will takeover the decrypting.

It is best not to have DVD43 running when using DVD Decryoter. They both decrypt and can interfere with each other.

[wts]

THanks,

Does either one do a better job of decrypting than the other

[jmet]

If it was me, I would decrypt the DVD with DVD Decrypter first, then use the "Open Files" button in DVD Shrink and select the "VIDEO_TS" folder.

(You need to rip in "File" mode, and select all files (not main movie files.)

[nwg]

Originally posted by wts
THanks,

Does either one do a better job of decrypting than the other

DVD Decrypter should be better for difficult DVD's with protection like ArcoSS. DVD43 can also do ArcoSS but Decrypter seems to do more affected DVD's.