using nero 7 and taiyo yuden media but getting illegal disc error

**shrimpcurry** · 9 Oct 2005, 02:02 PM

I've read somewhere that my drive may be a rebadged liteon drive or something, so the firmware upgrade I did really won't help. Is this true? Should I crossflash to the latest liteon firmware?

**anonymez** · 9 Oct 2005, 02:16 PM

try using nero 6. forgive me if i'm wrong, but i think your nero 7 is pirated (and likely to be unstable/buggy/fake), because its has not yet been released (its not october 13 yet)

illegal disc is usually because of unsupported media. check http://www.videohelp.com for a list of supported media for your dvd writer, you may also want to lower your burning speed...

**blutach** · 9 Oct 2005, 02:25 PM

New versions - same old problems

Tried burning at 4x? How does it go with DVD Decrypter/Img Burn?

Regards

**Chewy** · 9 Oct 2005, 06:34 PM

Physical memory : 382MB (391664kB)
Free physical memory: 64MB (65612kB)
there's a lot of crud running in the background, is your vid sharing 128?

8x is pushing the envelope on an "OPTIMIZED" computer with usb2!

according to cdfreaks review, "It will crossflash to 1693S, now it supports DVD-R9 DL"

**shrimpcurry** · 10 Oct 2005, 02:25 AM

It is a shared mem vid card. Know any way to free up more memory like what programs are essential to keep running? ok I'll try a slower speed. Thanks for all the suggestions.

**Chewy** · 10 Oct 2005, 03:29 AM

If you can share 64 megs onboard vid, shrink would appreciate it,
nero probably doesn't need it at 4x. Program running down next to clock
and speaker icon are usually candidates for turning off, laptops take a few special programs. Powermanagement and keyboard/mouse stuff leave alone.
What other burning programs do you have installed?

**shrimpcurry** · 10 Oct 2005, 04:13 AM

nothing but nero. got any suggestions? I successfully burned at 4x but damn, I really wish I didn't buy a 16x burner if 4x is the max I can get consistently. but yeah, any other alternative burning program suggestions will be much appreciated. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED ME OUT.

**shrimpcurry** · 10 Oct 2005, 04:17 AM

also, I have a 128 shared vid card so can I make this lower? if so, how? I have a ati x200 or something like that.

**Taelon** · 10 Oct 2005, 04:32 AM

ImgBurn should use less memory than Nero

**anonymez** · 10 Oct 2005, 04:53 AM

you can change the amount of shared memory in the BIOS. (press the key mentioned when you start your laptop, to enter the BIOS. usually the 'delete' button) look for a setting 'vidoe shared memory' or something like that.

if you are not using the laptop for gaming (integrated has very poor performance anyway, and wouldn't be able to play much), you should lower it to ~32mb

**Chewy** · 10 Oct 2005, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by shrimpcurry

nothing but nero. got any suggestions? I successfully burned at 4x but damn, I really wish I didn't buy a 16x burner if 4x is the max I can get consistently. but yeah, any other alternative burning program suggestions will be much appreciated. THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED ME OUT.

What do you expect with a laptop? USB2 only does a little over 10-11MB/s.
8x burning is almost 11MB/s. 16x burners is all they make nowdays,
nothing special there at all. I burn at 4x on media made in JAPAN
with computers that run circles around laptops. The whole point is to be able
to make a movie backup that plays well and lasts.

**BSpielbauer** · 10 Oct 2005, 12:09 PM

shrimpcurry:

Do you have Roxio installed?

(Actually, your nero log indicates that you do... There is a driver listed there in your log which is the one that Nero claims is a Roxio driver that can cause a lot of "illegal disc" problems.)

In the majority of cases, the "illegal disc" points to a media issue (but you are using Taiyo Yudens, and we hope they are authentic ones), and it also
often points to firmware problems, or the DMA versus PIO problem.

However, SOMETIMES it is caused by the conflict that some people have had on their systems when they had both Roxio and Nero installed. Even though Roxio is not running in any way, the Nero apparently uses some drivers which it expects to be Windows ones, only Roxio has come along and replaced these with its own version. The "packet writing software" is the issue, here, from what i have read.

Not all systems have this conflict. Thousands are able to have both on their system with no problem. But, there have been enough legitimate reports of this that BOTH Roxio and Nero have tech notes at their web site about it (and both try to tell you to uninstall the other one's stuff, of course).

The solution -- try to uninstall Roxio. Try another burn. If you get the same result, go to Nero's web site, and look for the special utility there that they have which will truly get rid of all of those old Roxio drivers (some apparently can hang on even after you uninstall, in some cases). Then, try once more.

If you still get the "illegal disc error, ignore all of this, as it was not apparently applicable to your system.

--- For further study ---

From what I have read, this is one of the drivers that indicates Roxio has been on your system:

File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/25/2005 11:03:00 PM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)

You will find this same driver listed in your Nero log above; scroll to the place where it mentions "existing drivers."

-Bruce

**blutach** · 10 Oct 2005, 12:17 PM

Even it is not Roxio, it could be many of Sonic Solutions's other products, including RecordNow!, Easy CD DVD Creator, Easy DVD Copy, DVDit, etc etc.

Regards

**shrimpcurry** · 20 Oct 2005, 12:30 PM

well everyone, I burned one single disc successfully and then it bombed again! I DID have sonic software installed so I uninstalled it from my computer. I also used the cleanpack from the nero site to see if any drivers were still present. After that I tried another disc but with no success. Here's the log and PLEASE HELP ME!!! I am going insane!!!
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 9:35:34 PM
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2>Version: JWS6 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <> HA 2
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <TEAC DW-224E-C >Version: A.8C - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : IC25N060ATMR04-0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TEAC DW-224E-C atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TEAC DW-224E-C D: CDRom0
Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2 E: CDRom1
=======================
AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 57671680 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 382MB (391664kB)
Free physical memory: 69MB (71176kB)
Memory in use : 81 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
19.10.2005
ISO compilation
8:16:05 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

8:16:05 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

8:16:05 PM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2 running

8:16:05 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

8:16:05 PM #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

8:16:05 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 1361535 (302:33.60, 2659MB)

8:16:05 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

8:16:05 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

8:16:05 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

8:16:05 PM #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 1361536 (1361536) = #1361536/302:33.61
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1361536 blocks [Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2]
--------------------------------------------------------------

8:16:05 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 2788425728, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
1361536 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

8:16:06 PM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

8:16:06 PM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.

8:16:06 PM #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

8:16:06 PM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

8:16:06 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

8:16:06 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

8:16:06 PM #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON , Adapt writespeed to disc : ON

8:16:06 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

8:16:06 PM #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

8:16:49 PM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
20:16:49.046 - Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWlD2\H2 T0 : Queue again later

8:20:35 PM #22 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
SCSI Exec, HA 2, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0A150000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x05

8:20:35 PM #23 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
Illegal disc

8:20:35 PM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

8:20:35 PM #25 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
conversion idle, stopping reader

8:20:35 PM #26 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
EndDAO: Last written address was 2047

8:20:35 PM #27 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/26/2005 2:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 5:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for src)
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

using nero 7 and taiyo yuden media but getting illegal disc error

using nero 7 and taiyo yuden media but getting illegal disc error

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