Buffer and burn time problem

[Shoomy]

I have a pioneer dvr110 and i when burn the buffer goes up and down constantly and not by small percentages but it can go down to 8% and back to 93%

So i tried burning anyway at x16 with a verbatim media and while the burn was successful, it took me 30 minutes!

i know that at x16 it should take more like 3 minutes

any ideas on why this happens?

[jm1647]

Is your DMA in PIO mode? Post a log from your burning program. And 16x is too fast for some burner/firmware/media combinations.

[Shoomy]

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 18:35:34
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b

Recorder:
Version: 1.22 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <toshiba dvd-rom="" sd-m1502="">Version: 1002 - HA 2 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
Adapter driver: <viamraid> HA 2

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600JS-19MHB0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TSSTcorp CD-R/RW SH-R522C atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M15021002 viamraid Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d347prt Port 3 ID 2 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D J: CDRom1
TSSTcorp CD-R/RW SH-R522C E: CDRom2
TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1502 D: CDRom0
Generic DVD-ROM F: CDRom3
Generic DVD-ROM G: CDRom4
Generic DVD-ROM H: CDRom5
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048044kB)
Free physical memory: 642MB (657720kB)
Memory in use : 37
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

12.11.2005
ISO compilation
12:03:49 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : TRUE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

12:03:49 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
Reader running

12:03:49 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D running

12:03:49 #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

12:03:49 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

12:03:50 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2214687 (492:09.12, 4325MB)

12:03:50 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

12:03:50 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: MCC 03 - RG20
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

12:03:50 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

12:03:50 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2214688 (2214688) = #2214688/492:9.13
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2214688 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D]
--------------------------------------------------------------

12:03:50 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4535681024, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2214688 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

12:03:50 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files started

12:03:50 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
Cache writing successful.

12:03:50 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Caching of files completed

12:03:50 #15 Phase 32 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Simulation started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

12:04:02 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

12:04:02 #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

12:04:02 #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

12:04:02 #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

12:04:02 #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified=""> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

12:04:04 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
12:04:04.546 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

12:05:37 #120 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
12:05:37.140 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

12:32:00 #121 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116

start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2214688 (21CB20h), lenght 0 blocks

12:32:00 #122 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

12:32:00 #123 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
EndDAO: Last written address was 2214687

12:32:13 #124 Phase 33 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Simulation completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

12:32:14 #125 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

12:32:14 #126 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

12:32:15 #127 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

12:32:15 #128 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

12:32:15 #129 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

12:32:15 #130 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified=""> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

12:32:17 #131 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
12:32:17.234 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

12:34:23 #230 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1286
12:34:23.984 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D\H1 T0 : Queue again later

13:02:00 #231 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116

start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2214688 (21CB20h), lenght 0 blocks

13:02:00 #232 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
all writers idle, stopping conversion

13:02:00 #233 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
EndDAO: Last written address was 2214687

13:02:12 #234 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 12/03/2005 00:28:13 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 03/08/2004 22:59:44 (Adapter driver for rec)
File 'Drivers\viamraid.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.310, size=74112 bytes, created 18/05/2004 10:55:26 (Adapter driver for src)


There were alot more queue thingis but i deleted most
</not></not></viamraid></toshiba></atapi>

[Chewy]

5 min 40 sec is hall of fame(cd freaks) full disk/high quality

now nero and/or your firmware may be corrupt.

"TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M15021002 viamraid Port 2 ID 0"
strange

virtual drives too.

Can you give a little history or specs about your computer?

[Shoomy]

My dvd-rom is on an onboard raid - that if switch the raid mode off it only accepts HDDs, thats why it has a raid controller

as for my virtual drives, guess i have alot of ISOs i need to mount

and i dont know what you mean by history but i can give you my specs

P4 3.2GHZ
Gigabyte 8I915P Duo
Radeon X600XT
WD 160GB Sata

[doit2it]

I think NERO reads the blank DVD to see what the maximum burn speed is for that disc and then tries to burn it at that speed. When the log says a lot of Queue again later messages, I think it means your burner is having a hard time burning at that speed. You may need to do a firmware update or just try burning at a lower speed. It's safer to do that anyway

[Chewy]

Try turning some stuff off, with dvd burners so cheap, there's not much need
for cd burners(obsolete), I had a similar problem with an OC I was doing.
I suspect my firmware became corrupt, I reflashed and reloaded nero
just to be safe. One thing is for sure, something is hosing your system.

Is everything turned on in bios? Turn off what's not being used.

Those bleeding edge mobos are a royal P.I.T.A.

[Shoomy]

I tried disabling my virtual drives and burning at x4
still no effect

what else should i try?

[cornholio7]

have you tried imgburn?

edit : i just checked , you are the guy with a chipset driver problem - did you install the matrix drivers yet?

[Shoomy]

Yes i did
the buffer is still crazy and it burns at 2x (while i set it at 4x)

Edit:

I found that problem
it was that the burner was connected to an onboard RAID
now its not

[Chewy]

That explains nero's problem with identifying the drive in the log,
raid chipsets aren't meant for atapi drives.

BINGO!

[Shoomy]

But it is no longer on raid...

i've put it on a non-raid IDE

[Chewy]

But it is no longer on raid...

i've put it on a non-raid IDE

Always connect the optical/atapi ide drives to the primary or secondary
ide controllers on the motherboard, there are very few other controllers
that work right.

The new serial mobos and hard drives free up the ide's.

[Shoomy]

The burner is on the primary ide channel

[Chewy]

I usually put my combos/dvd-roms on the primary and burners on secondary,
for the frequent firmware flashing I do. I am a little too picky some time.

Is it working now?