16x or 8X...does it matter?

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  • boonclee
    Gold Member
    Gold Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 104

    #16
    i do have the plextor 716A...and no matter what i use..8X or 16X...it never ever burns faster than 8X....usually less than that even....

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    • geno888
      Digital Video Master
      Digital Video Master
      • Dec 2005
      • 1081

      #17
      Originally Posted by Chewy
      Have you burned at 16x and 8x and found 16x better?
      I burned a 16x certified media (Verbatim +R MCC 004) @4x, @8x, @12x, and @16x with the same burner, and find that the best results was @12x.


      Originally Posted by boonclee
      i do have the plextor 716A...and no matter what i use..8X or 16X...it never ever burns faster than 8X....usually less than that even....
      Do you have 40 wire cables? Try to use 80 wire cables. Check if DMA is active (metter if UDMA-2 or UDMA-4).

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      • royer_50
        2OLD
        • Nov 2005
        • 11

        #18
        One of my machines has a Sony DRU-710A. I have had that one installed for a little over a year and have burned over 500 SL Sony DVDs in it with only a very few coasters. Those coasters were ones that I made authoring errors and were simply my fault. I did have pixelation problems in some when I burned at 8X and higher, however, when I kept the burn speed at 4X, I had and continue to have, no problems whatsoever. I have been using SL Sony blank media exclusively.

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        • NightTran
          King of Digital Video
          King of Digital Video
          • Aug 2005
          • 4224

          #19
          is your blanks are 8X? or 4X?and what program are you burning with?
          Last edited by NightTran; 6 Dec 2005, 10:26 AM.
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          • geno888
            Digital Video Master
            Digital Video Master
            • Dec 2005
            • 1081

            #20
            Originally Posted by royer_50
            One of my machines has a Sony DRU-710A. I have had that one installed for a little over a year and have burned over 500 SL Sony DVDs in it with only a very few coasters. Those coasters were ones that I made authoring errors and were simply my fault. I did have pixelation problems in some when I burned at 8X and higher, however, when I kept the burn speed at 4X, I had and continue to have, no problems whatsoever. I have been using SL Sony blank media exclusively.
            Sony DRU-710A is a rebadged liteon 1633S, one of the worst burners ever made by liteon.

            I had one and it broke after 6 months. Burning quality of this hardware was always very low, until the definitive broke. Now I have a liteon 1693, and I obtain very good burnings @12 and @16x (most @12x; very few @16 due to media lacking).

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            • royer_50
              2OLD
              • Nov 2005
              • 11

              #21
              Sorry, my current Sony blanks are 8X and I have been burning with Nero 6.

              Maybe it is one of the worst out there, but it works.
              Last edited by royer_50; 6 Dec 2005, 10:32 AM.

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              • tigerman8u
                Lord of Digital Video
                Lord of Digital Video
                • Aug 2003
                • 2122

                #22
                I've been burning my maxell 8x at 16x with no problems so far

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                • Chewy
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 18971

                  #23
                  Originally Posted by tigerman8u
                  I've been burning my maxell 8x at 16x with no problems so far
                  would a true tiger ever be timid

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                  • geno888
                    Digital Video Master
                    Digital Video Master
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 1081

                    #24
                    Originally Posted by tigerman8u
                    I've been burning my maxell 8x at 16x with no problems so far
                    Just a curiosity, are these maxell media made in Japan? I also burned 8x certified taiyo @16x with good results (but better results for me are @12x with these media)

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                    • boonclee
                      Gold Member
                      Gold Member
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 104

                      #25
                      Do you have 40 wire cables? Try to use 80 wire cables. Check if DMA is active (metter if UDMA-2 or UDMA-4).[/QUOTE]

                      What do u mean by that?

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                      • geno888
                        Digital Video Master
                        Digital Video Master
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 1081

                        #26
                        Originally Posted by boonclee
                        Do you have 40 wire cables? Try to use 80 wire cables. Check if DMA is active (metter if UDMA-2 or UDMA-4).

                        What do u mean by that?
                        Older IDE cables have 40 pin and 40 wires. Nowdays IDE cables have 40 pin but 80 wires to improve data flux and avoid data corruption. With older cables you can't reach high speed because data will be corrupted, so maybe the cause of your slow speed is due to an older cable.

                        To check DMA, go to control panel --> Administrative tools --> Computer management

                        On this window go to Device manager on left panel

                        From device manager, expand the item "IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers"

                        Double click on Primary IDE Channel and then click on Advanced Settings tab.

                        See here if DMA is active.

                        Do the same thing with Secondary IDE Channel.

                        Another thing: what IDE drivers do you have? On the same window of DMA check what IDE drivers do you have.

                        I'm real sorry, but for a reason that I don't understand, the server refuse to attach images.

                        I hope anyway to have explained enough clearly

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                        • Donovan
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 34

                          #27
                          Even though my drive will do 16x, I just take the low n' slow method and burn at 4x.... I just want to make sure my burns come out okay

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                          • geno888
                            Digital Video Master
                            Digital Video Master
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1081

                            #28
                            Originally Posted by Donovan
                            Even though my drive will do 16x, I just take the low n' slow method and burn at 4x.... I just want to make sure my burns come out okay
                            It all depend on the combination of burner/firmware/media.

                            There is no absolute rule. And as I said, with high speed certified media is better to burn around their certified speed. The best results are obtained in this way.

                            But maybe I'm too picky regarding burning quality (yes, I admit: I'm a member of CDFreaks also )

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                            • boonclee
                              Gold Member
                              Gold Member
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 104

                              #29
                              thanks geno for the info...

                              if anyone is interested..i just bot 100 16x dvd-r verbatim fer 35 all in at buy.com

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                              • Bella'sDaddy
                                Texas Longhorns are #1
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 25

                                #30
                                so if I have a Memorex 16x burner and my media is Memorex 16x +R - what speed should I be burning at?
                                Michael

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