very wierd complication when burning discs

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  • darthrya
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 21

    very wierd complication when burning discs

    For some reason, whenever I am authoring and burning a disc, regardless of the program I am using (Nero, plus some others common programs, etc.), my system starts running really slow. It wasn't like that until about a month ago.

    Even more odd is that whenever I am in the process of burning, and I try to log onto the internet (I have dialup), my modem won't work. It sounds like it is dying when I do this. But, if I pause authoring/burning, it will log on just fine. But, after I log on, if I resume authoring/burning, it won't let me navigate. I just get kicked off the net.

    Has anyone had this problem? I ran a virus scan, and nothing came up. I even ran an online virus scan through Norton's web site, and still nothing came up. I've gone to a friend's house and ran the same scenarios on his computers (which are older and slower), and he has no problems whatsoever. I've purged all unnecessary programs from booting up and running. The only thing I have running while authoring/burning is Norton 2007, and I've eliminated that as a possible cause. I have the same problem on my other computer in my two-way network, so I am pretty confident the hardware isn't dying on me.<!-- / message -->

    Thanks for reading. I hope someone has some good information.
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    Last edited by darthrya; 24 May 2007, 12:46 PM. Reason: Rule 19
  • blutach
    Not a god of digital video
    • Oct 2004
    • 24627

    #2
    Check your DMA. Also read and implement the Golden Rules of Burning.

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    • darthrya
      Junior Member
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      • Jan 2006
      • 21

      #3
      Originally Posted by blutach
      Check your DMA. Also read and implement the Golden Rules of Burning.

      Regards
      Thank you. My DMA is set correctly, and I have been following the golden rules for quite some time now. That is one reason why I am perplexed. This just started becoming a problem about a month ago.

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      • Chewy
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 18971

        #4
        have you run spybot and/or adaware?



        what's this show for ram available?

        Norton's is my prime suspect
        Last edited by Chewy; 24 May 2007, 01:22 PM.

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        • r0lZ
          Lord of Digital Video
          Lord of Digital Video
          • Mar 2004
          • 1508

          #5
          Originally Posted by Chewy
          Norton's is my prime suspect
          I agree. Although I haven't used it for ages, I remember it had the bad habit to slow down the system incredibly, after some time.

          Also, all Windows systems can become very slow (especially when booting) for some reason that I haven't understood yet. I recommend to reinstall Windows from scratch at least every 2-3 years or so. But you can also try to create another user account, and log in under this new account. Usually, it's sufficient to restore the normal behaviour and speed of Windoze.

          BTW, it is preferable to not dial the net when burning!
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          • Experi-Mentor
            Digital Video Master
            Digital Video Master
            • Nov 2004
            • 1456

            #6
            have you tried a "ctrl-alt-del" & looking in "processes" to see what's possibly draining your recourses ?

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            • rosariorose9
              Just trying to learn...
              • Jan 2007
              • 156

              #7
              Originally Posted by r0lZ
              ...Also, all Windows systems can become very slow (especially when booting) for some reason that I haven't understood yet. I recommend to reinstall Windows from scratch at least every 2-3 years or so.
              I do it every year or so. It's a major pain in the a$$, but it's AMAZING how dramatically it speeds up your system.

              rosariorose9

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              • darthrya
                Junior Member
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                • Jan 2006
                • 21

                #8
                Originally Posted by Chewy
                have you run spybot and/or adaware?



                what's this show for ram available?

                Norton's is my prime suspect
                I check for spyware regularly using different programs. If it is spyware, then it would have to be something very stealthy. As for RAM, I'll have to get back to you on that one.


                Originally Posted by Experi-Mentor
                have you tried a "ctrl-alt-del" & looking in "processes" to see what's possibly draining your recourses ?
                Yes. System Idle wins hands down.

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                • darthrya
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                  • Jan 2006
                  • 21

                  #9
                  Originally Posted by r0lZ
                  I agree. Although I haven't used it for ages, I remember it had the bad habit to slow down the system incredibly, after some time.

                  Also, all Windows systems can become very slow (especially when booting) for some reason that I haven't understood yet. I recommend to reinstall Windows from scratch at least every 2-3 years or so. But you can also try to create another user account, and log in under this new account. Usually, it's sufficient to restore the normal behaviour and speed of Windoze.

                  BTW, it is preferable to not dial the net when burning!
                  It's not Norton, unless it was one of the updates. Norton has been very compatible with my system, with the exception of slowing down the boot and opening files.

                  I know dialing up while burning is not preferable, nor is multi-tasking, but as I told someone else, my system works fine with that. I get about 1 bad burn per 100 discs, and even when that happens, I can usually pinpoint the problem to being something else (such as accidentally living a slight finger smudge or a speck dust on the burn surface which ruins the burn).


                  Originally Posted by rosariorose9
                  I do it every year or so. It's a major pain in the a$$, but it's AMAZING how dramatically it speeds up your system.

                  rosariorose9
                  That's my project this summer. I don't download much at all, but for some reason, my system just keeps getting slower. I really wish software developers would work harder on compatibility and hogging up less resources.

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                  • darthrya
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                    • Jan 2006
                    • 21

                    #10
                    Originally Posted by Chewy
                    what's this show for ram available?
                    By the way, I have a gig of RAM, and when I multitask, it's only Internet Explorer and Microsoft Word while I am burning. Since I only go to text and picture pages (not video pages), and because I only run text on MS Word, neither of those programs use much memory.

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                    • Chewy
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 18971

                      #11
                      It's not as important how much memory you have available as how much you have loaded and what's using it. These are just signs of faulty/bad programs
                      running in the background.

                      look at my processes and memory available and compare to yours

                      with a gig windows will load a little more and take more, that's fine, but
                      whatelse is using it?

                      take total ram and subtract available to get what's in use
                      Attached Files

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                      • darthrya
                        Junior Member
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 21

                        #12
                        Thank you Chewie. I definitely have more stuff running using more RAM, but I still think everything is kosher.

                        I'd provide a screen shot, but the processes have my first and last name.

                        Here's what I have running you do not:
                        smlcsvc.exe
                        AppSvc32.exe
                        devldr32.exe
                        MsPMSPSv.exe
                        wdfmgr.exe
                        AluSchedulerSvc.exe
                        smss.exe
                        nvsvc32.exe
                        ccApp.exe
                        CTSVCCDA.exe
                        sdhelp.exe

                        None of them are running the CPU, and none of them require more than 5 mb of RAM. I have 1047344 total memory and 657900 available. It really seems normal.

                        The issue appears not to be the memory, but how much burning sucks up my CPU's capability. Burning DVDs runs my 2.4 GHZ processor at 100%. It should not. I am just wondering if my burning programs have been corrupted to suck up more processor strength (if that is even possible).

                        I appreciate your time in helping out. This is very kind of you.

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                        • Chewy
                          Super Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 18971

                          #13
                          Burning DVDs runs my 2.4 GHZ processor at 100%.
                          pio mode for sure

                          Thank you. My DMA is set correctly,
                          evidently not

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                          • darthrya
                            Junior Member
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                            • Jan 2006
                            • 21

                            #14
                            Originally Posted by Chewy
                            pio mode for sure



                            evidently not

                            http://winhlp.com/WxDMA.htm
                            I'll be a monkey's uncle. My primary drive was just fine, but my secondary, which I rarely use (only for copying CDRs), was listed PIO. I figured that couldn't be the problem, but it was. I changed it to DMA and my system is normal. It's the same case with my wife's computer, too.

                            Thanks for the tutorial link. I now understand that the system can change the settings without notifying me. That's why I was so perplexed - I didn't make any changes to my system, and the at fault drive is one I don't use for burning DVD files.

                            Everybody - thank you for your help. That's the second time you have helped me fix a DVD-related issue. Cheers!

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                            • darthrya
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                              • Jan 2006
                              • 21

                              #15
                              A quick question - lately I've been using some really crappy CDR media given to me as a gift. I've been getting coasters at a rate of 50% (no big deal since the media was a gift and I only use it for work presentations and other not-very-important things of a temporary nature), and I am wondering if this problem was what caused my system to move my secondary drive from DMA to PIO.

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