Can't turn CC off

[blutach]

Hi Steve - is this the screen that leads you to believe you have closed captions??

Regards

[blutach]

My analysis of your IFOs and menus shows the subtitles are not turned on during the movie if you simply press play. At least in the IFOs. The VOBs might have some forced start code in them - you can check with DVDSubEdit - but I doubt that. I wonder if it's a player setting.

Regards

[Steve83]

Yes, that's the screenshot I posted above. How could the player switch them on & off during the movie, but never do it on other DVDs?

[blutach]

Well, they are certainly not closed captions - they are subtitles. Are these displayed during the whole film? Or just at certain times?

I note there are 4 subtitle streams - Englsih, Spanish, French and English. I can only presume the 2nd English is the director's commentary. The French is not available on the menu but if you select French audio, the French subbies are also displayed.

Best bet is to look through it with DVDSubEdit and see what streams are what. I can only say that out of the box, pressing play should play the English DD 5.1 with no subbies displayed.

Regards

[Steve83]

They appeared & disappeared throughout the movie, regardless of what I selected on that menu. I've watched it before on that player, and I don't remember it doing this.

[blutach]

Right - that is probably the 4th English stream somehow being slected - maybe foreign language speak. I played with the menu a bit, selecting directors feature commentary and playing the deleted scenes and then it somehow turned on this subbie stream, but I couldn't easily replicate it.

Again, out of the box unless your player is set to a language other than English, it should play 5.1 dolby digital no subbies.

Regards

[Steve83]

The player is ~3 years old, and I've played thousands of original & backup DVDs in it. This is the first time I've noticed this happen.

[Steve83]

It happened again last night on a backup of "11:14". This DVD does have a "subtitles off" selection in the menu, but it would only work for a minute or so, and they'd come right back on. The subtitles button on the remote would only bring up "Subtitles: English 1/1" on the screen - it would never go to "Subtitles: 0/1" or "Subtitles: Off", like some other DVDs have done in this player.

I hope it's not the player - that thing wasn't cheap. Do you think I could flash the firmware? It's a JVC XV-FA95.

[Gary D]

I wonder if some other infrared remote be turning them off and on with your player. Sometimes my TV remote would send a command to my DVD player and interfere with it. Try taping over the sensor of the DVD player after setting (and verifying) the subtitles are off. Make sure the tape is dark enough that any signals can not get through. Then use the DVD push buttons and go to different chapters and see if they play without subtitles.

[jm1647]

My R1 US version backup only has English and French Subtitles and they can be turned on and off via the remote on all 3 of my standalone dvd players.

[Steve83]

I could buy the IR interference theory if I had been using them when the subs were switching, but I wasn't. I turned them off, and put the remote down to watch the movie. I have a Scientific Atlanta cable box remote, JVC VCR remote, Kenwood stereo remote, JVC DVD remote, and Hunter fan remote (but it's strictly RF) on the coffee table, but we normally only use the last 3.

So I just tried it: I started the movie, FF thru the credits, lined up all the remotes behind a book so the LEDs were blocked, & within a couple of minutes, subs came on. I turned them off, put the remote back behind the book, and it took 10 min for them to come on again. Turned them off again, & stuffed them all under some pillows pointing away from the player, and it took less than 30 sec for subs to come back.

I did notice that subs did NOT come back on at the same point as when we watched it the other night, but I don't know what that means. It makes it seem to me more like a player issue than a DVD issue.

[Steve83]

Good news! ...or is it bad news?

The subs spontaneously appear/disappear on my Toshiba SD-P2700 portable, too. And there's one spot where it ALWAYS happens, even if I've JUST pressed the subtitles button on the remote, and the "Subtitles OFF" popup is still on the screen. And it shows one word, then turns off - every time, even in FF or reverse 2x.