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  • mtsbr
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2003
    • 21

    vobedit 0.6 handable maxium file size?

    When I tried to get m2v ES with VOBEdit 0.6 from movie vobs which were 7.2GB, the obtained m2v was just a little bit over 4GM. I run WinMe. is this a Fat32 file system phenomina or not?

    If so, are there alternative ways to avoid such problem?

    Thanks.
  • BoF
    Moderator
    • Nov 2001
    • 954

    #2
    Re: vobedit 0.6 handable maxium file size?

    Originally posted by mtsbr
    is this a Fat32 file system phenomina or not?
    yes.
    Originally posted by mtsbr
    If so, are there alternative ways to avoid such problem?
    upgrading to a decent M$ OS like 2000/XP mounted on a NTFS files system.
    or auto split files each Go.
    [www.scandiumrecords.com][Logan dataspirit]

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    • mtsbr
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2003
      • 21

      #3
      what do you mean "auto split files ecah Go"?
      Is it a built in fuction with VobEdit?
      I don't think there are such option to let you choose.

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      • BoF
        Moderator
        • Nov 2001
        • 954

        #4
        you can't exceed a 4Go file. I suppose you've 7 vobs on your hd, what do you plan to do with? a huge m2v file?
        Last edited by BoF; 30 Jul 2003, 04:51 PM.
        [www.scandiumrecords.com][Logan dataspirit]

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        • shiny#3
          Digital Video Master
          Digital Video Master
          • Jul 2003
          • 1000

          #5
          I have never used vobedit so far.
          But what I know and I guess you also know that is that a *.vob file is just a wrapped file of mpeg2 streams containing video and audio.
          when you extract the m2v stream in its original bitrate out of the *.vob it should
          not result in a file bigger than the original

          I think that you are not going to install linux or windows xp for that job.

          I presume you want to maintain the original quality of the m2v videostream??

          do you have
          1)7 different vob files on your HDD
          2) or do you have only two big ones?

          in case 1 try to extract the m2v of each
          vob file creating a single destination file.

          Don´t try to extract all of them at once.

          in case 2 you can proceed likewise since both files do not supergo a filsize of 8 GB , but still do extract only one vob file at a time.

          if this is not possible because maybe (which I don´t know) vobedit can only handle vob files
          with the use of its corresponding .ifo?
          try another extractor!

          this url might also be of some help for you http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/Derrow/guides.html

          presuming that you insist on only m2v movie stream that contains the whole movie and also want it to be smaller than 4 GB

          why don´t you use DVDshrink to make
          the vobs a little smaller (about 10 %in your case)and exract
          the movie afterwards.

          but what the heck do you do with a
          moviestram of 4.0 gb ???

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          • mtsbr
            Junior Member
            Junior Member
            • Jul 2003
            • 21

            #6
            I'll take a look at the link you mentioned.

            What I was trying to do is to reauthor the dvd in this way.

            Reg1 Harry Potty 16:9 widescreen
            Reg6 Harry Potty 4:3 fullscreen.

            author to reg all 16:9 widescreen with Chinese audio.

            Since I was worried about disync video and audio, I did not compress the video first. After I found that Vobedit can't handle the whole set of Vobs to strip m2v. I gave up to try toshrink the vobs first. After geo the m2v and ac3 streams, wrapped them back to vobs in TDA with Menu.

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            • shiny#3
              Digital Video Master
              Digital Video Master
              • Jul 2003
              • 1000

              #7
              Oh yes now I hope I got you right!!!???

              so what you intend to do is:

              1. You want to get hold of the 16:9 moviestream
              of the Region 1 DVD in mpeg2 format.
              2. You want to get hold of the Chinese audiostream.

              3.You want to remux them to a 16:9 mpeg2 stream
              video and audio in ES format ( m2v and mpa seperated)
              so that you can reauthor it to a DVD-R of 4.7 GB???

              You also might meet the problem that the "remuxed"
              video/audio stream is out of sync because the Chinese audiostream is of different length compared to the 16:9
              movie stream as you mentioned?

              But the main problem is still the first one, that your OS
              can not handle filesizes bigger than 4 GB.
              Of course there is still the option of splitting the movie file
              but this could give you trouble with the synchronisation
              process (makes it a little more tricky) ?

              So if you want to do more of this authoring work I really
              recommend that you upgrade to a more decent Os (like XP
              or 2000 with ntfs HDD format). Your problems won´t exist any longer.

              But for now I understand that you still want to get hold of
              the 16:9 Mpeg2 video stream smaller than 4.0 GB

              That means recompressing it.

              Here is a way to do that.

              1. Load your REG 1 voblist into DVD2AVI
              (Don´t worry ... I´m not telling you how to make an AVI file)
              If your voblist does not work wit DVD2Avi rip it anew using
              Smartripper or anything comparable. You can either switch of
              the audio output or choose the language file you like to
              maintain in the Audio menu.

              2.Save it as project file in the File menue (it should result in something like ***.d2v

              3.Open that project file with TMPEG encoder
              Now you can use the Tmpeg encoder to recomrpess it resize, it
              what ever you want. Use a Bitrate calculator to make sure
              your final m2v stream does not exceed 4.0 GB

              4. If this is to slow for you you can also use
              The CINEMA CRAFT ENCODER to recompress the video.

              But first you have to create an avisynth script out of the
              ***.d2v project file.CCE only takes avi and mov!!
              If you don´t know how to create such an avisynth script
              use FitCD for that job. I know it was created for SVCD use
              but since we need only a few lines this will do the job.

              Run Fitcd (freeware) and once done don´t care about the upper
              part of the window.

              Load the ***.d2v file with the source button select DVD with the Destination pulldown menu. Make sure that the Resize resolution
              matches the Source resolution (you don´t want to resize resolution).
              By now the error on the left should display 0%.
              Uncheck "resample audio" if you don´t want to process audio
              Save the script.
              Just open the CCE and pull that scriptfile (***.dv2.avs) into the
              CCE window. Rightclick on the the file in CCE window and hit Edit.
              Adjust the setting according to your needs (there are a lot of guides out there).Set aspect ratio to SAR1:1.

              It is worth it to learn how to use CCE. It is of vast speed.
              choose mpeg 2 VBR multipass (2 passes will be enough)
              Since I haven´t watched one of the Harry Pothead movies so far
              I can´t give you advice in bitrate since I know nothing of its lenght.
              Hit the Quality button and in the new window turn off the filters.
              Close this window then. Use a bitrate calculator to figure out what bitrate to use and then encode.

              After having finished encoding you got a big m2v stream.
              (hopefully smaller than 4 gb) You will also see that the quality loss is not that big.
              Rip your needed chinese audio stream. You can edit this
              with "head ac3he" and then resync it if you meet out of sync problems after reauthoring your 16:9 Chinese Harry Potter DVD
              (But if they are of same length it should work!)
              by the way, Tmpeg DVD author is a decent tool

              I hope this will help you!!

              ps: (still I would try to shrink the whole dvd reg1 and then extract the mpeg2 stream. you have managed it with the original dvd,
              I see no reason why it should not work with the shrinked one!)
              Last edited by shiny#3; 1 Aug 2003, 03:12 AM.

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              • mtsbr
                Junior Member
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2003
                • 21

                #8
                Thanks, Shiny#3

                You mentioned an usual method anyway.

                But I have done the reauthoring like this:

                1. Rip the CHN HP to Harddisk, use ifoedit to get the AC3 audiostream only. It is only 424MB.
                2. Rip the ENG HP to harddisk. With DVDShrink reauthor mode, select the main movie with one ENG audiostream. compressed at Level 6. Then use ifoedit to get the m2v videostream, it is under 4GB(solved my Fat32 defects).
                3. With TAD, reauthor m2v and AC3 streams back to VOB.

                That's all. Without any audio video sync problems

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                • shiny#3
                  Digital Video Master
                  Digital Video Master
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1000

                  #9
                  It seems that you could have saved a lot of time
                  with a little brainwork and a lot of my time also

                  quote of my self!!!!!:::why don´t you use DVDshrink to make
                  the vobs a little smaller (about 10 %in your case)and exract
                  the movie afterwards.

                  But still .....congratulations!!!!
                  I guess a lot of Chinese people will be happy.

                  by the way this is not a very common or usual hint .
                  using cce produces the best results!!!

                  there is also a DVD copy program that uses CCE
                  ask UNCAS!!!

                  cu
                  good luck!!

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