Closed threads and closed minds (at CD Freaks)

[blutach]

It's not your fault that the CDF staff and owners are fools Wombler and you can't have an opinion unless it perfectly aligns with theirs. Somehow, KoolAid mixed with cyanide was never my drink of choice (if you get the metaphor).

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[blutach]

Back to the original topic....

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f88/new-slysoft-coupon-code-announcements-212172/#post2074052

Seems like the generous offer has now been extended twice. They should just admit the price needs to come down to stimulate sales IMO. In this economic climate especially. No-one reckons their product isn't great; I just reckon it's wayyyy too pricey.

It's very simple economics. If you raise prices - especially in a down market (hands up all those who are reducing spending due to high interest rates and gas prices), and for a a verrrry specialised product, which needs no replacements (after all you only need to buy it once) - if purchased volume drops by a lower % than the price rise, you look like a hero. If not, you "discount" and actually make less money and eventually you find that your marketing and pricing is pretty naive. They should admit they were silly in their pricing and reduce it back to reasonable levels permanently to encourage sales.

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[NightTran]

I had the program but have not touch it for about two years now

[locoeng]

I think even with the sales/discounts that the actual sale of the product has to be decreasing or they wouldn't keep "extending" the offers. This has turned into a classic case of greed and now Slysoft is obviously hurting from their own actions. Is it me or do the sales not matter so much as the actual price of the product...for example, the regular price was say $50 which isn't too much to ask IMHO. Later down the road the company increases the price to $100, but offers a 50% discount. I look at the actual cost of the program being $100 and ignore the discount thinking it's still too much to pay regardless of the price slash being offered to me. I'm one of those people who see something for $95 dollars and say "I'm paying $100 for this" rather than saying "well it's only $90" just to justify the purchase in my head. I'm sure everyone is thoroughly confused now getting inside loco's logic.

[blutach]

I think the most interesting and well balanced idea I saw on this was this one from Furious Flea where he opined that if they just charged E30 for their HD work, they would probably have customers coming out of their ears. Lower price = more customers. SamuriHL's comments followng that are interesting, too.

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[dr_ml422]

Hi fellas. Hi Loco. I reason along the same path especially when there's a product that's better or that seems more of what you want. ie:If there's some thing out there whether a product, food, or service and it's let's say $95, but there's something supposedly or actually better for $105 or even $110 then my logic is for a few bucks more you get lil more quality or satisfaction accordingly. More than not when you buy cheap it ends up costing more in the long run. As far as slysoft's marketing they're crazy to even try bending one over to comply w/their euro. I always in business try to meet you where you're at. If all you have is say x amount of $$$ then all you get is x amount of product, but the thing is that it's mutually beneficial 4 both of us. If it's all you we're not in business. I'd like to have some sort of idea of who's buying more of their products? USA or Europe for starters? That right there will definitely put a stamp on things. I wonder if they'll start acting up w/those of us from here who frequent their forum? That'll be the icing on the cake. My user id is the same in all forums. Have enough on my plate to start getting schizo or developing multiple personalities. Lol...

[locoeng]

I wonder if they'll start acting up w/those of us from here who frequent their forum?

I don't think this a forum wide rivalry thing, but something more personal TBH. There are a lot of members there that are also members here.

[dr_ml422]

Yeah I've seen some of us there. Must be personal for w/e reason because I went at it w/the Pioneer guy and it was pretty crazy, and I didn't get any warning or anything. Place offers good stuff like all forums. I do notice a big difference though between here, AD and them. It's like I mentioned b4. Treat it like a buffet and take what you want and leave the rest. I had a ball discussing Slysoft's product price in AD w/no problem whatsoever. Actually all who participated had their voice heard.

[doctorhardware]

Blu is actually right, with the high gas prices, and the wii, video game rooms are taking big hits. There revenues are way down. What is being done to increase sales is to give bigger value for the money. Like reducing the prices, or like the game rooms do is for $20 you get 120 tokens. That is a good value for your money.

[youthinksoo]

I agree with what most of you are saying and I also think it is ridiculous that Blu got banned. However, no free-ware or alternative software products exsit that can do what ANYDVDHD can do. Talking strictly about Blu-Ray here.

[dr_ml422]

That might be true for now about existing freeware/software regarding Blu-Ray. It's too early to compare though. I'm 100% positive there will be available products that will do what needs to be done. I seriously doubt there're drolls of enthusiasts out there w/the hardware that's even needed to accomplish the task at hand. When the time comes the products available will be definitely cheaper than the present price of ANYDVDHD, and probably cheaper than their price at that time also. This is of course the main debate and purpose of this thread I think. To freely discuss one's take on what wasn't freely accepted at said place. What it can do and what it costs is 2 different stories. Everyone knows more or less what it can do. It's the price that's the focus of the whole debate. Honestly, how many people do you think right now are buying Blu-Ray blanks at what, $22 more or less and throwing them in a $300 to more than $1000 burner?

[blutach]

Yeah dr_ml422, right on! Right now, I'm too busy trying to determine what day is best to fill my car up and to ensure I have discount vouchers for fuel.

Given the costs you mentioned above, it's probably cheaper to buy a new disc if your original goes west. Of course, if and when prices of media and burners decrease significantly, things might change.

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[blutach]

I now note that $ly$oft have extended their 20% discount offer to July 31. This initially started as a one week only thing to June 16.

Obviously, their pricing is way outa whack with reality and they should admit they were wrong (in a closed market in tight economic conditions, huge price rises just do not cut the mustard) and send the marketing director onto the dole queues! AD seems to be on permanent discount now and nothing the dolts over at CD Freaks can do to promote this as a wonderful offer can help.

$$ should reduce prices permanently (although I think being on discount for at least 7 weeks is tantamount to that anyway).

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[cynthia]

It's like in oriental carpet shops here. They always have a 30-40% special sale offer discount. It seems never to expire, even if the salesman tells you it will...

[blutach]

Buy now and S-A-V-E!

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