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  • dazuk1972
    Digital Video Specialist
    Digital Video Specialist
    • Jul 2005
    • 853

    DVD's Turn Out With a Black Border

    Why is it when I run some video files through Cyberlink Power Producer and burn to DVD, I get a border around the screen? This is will full-framed video so far. This only happens sometimes, not always. I'm in the UK under R2 PAL and some video files are under R1 NTSC. I get a message appearing when an NTSC video is going through where some picture differences can occur. I changed my Power Producer to NTSC to make things compatable and it never worked. I went back to PAL and the same. I tried different file types when I was producing, I tried MPEG1 for the full frame and it came out with a border through NTSC and PAL and the same when I produced through MPEG2 (that's used for wide screen) with NTSC and PAL and the same problem.

    Also, when I get this border, it alters the picture shape a bit where a letter "O" can be oval-shaped when it's not from the AVI file. The "O" is a simple circle in the AVI files but when I produce to MPEG1 or MPEG2 for tranfering to DVD, that is when the simple-circled "O" is oval shaped in my DVD copies. Yes, I'm doing this from AVI files. Some friends sent me some of their camcorder footage and I like it and I want to put them on DVD for keeps where of course, it's better to watch it on the TV than the PC. So far things are going wrong as I mentioned. By the way, the picture quality itself is DVD quality. It's only the black borner and the slight different shape of the picture quality that ruins it all so far.

    Please help me.

    Many thanks.
  • atifsh
    Lord of Digital Video
    Lord of Digital Video
    • May 2003
    • 1534

    #2
    ummm wide / normal ratio ? using 4:3 video to produce wide or somthing
    Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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    • blutach
      Not a god of digital video
      • Oct 2004
      • 24627

      #3
      It's 4:3 source picture letterboxed. If you want to convert it to true 16:9 WS, run it through DVD Rebuilder, setting the option to convert LB to WS under AVS Expert options.

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      Les

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      • gonwk
        Lord of Digital Video
        Lord of Digital Video
        • Dec 2005
        • 1500

        #4
        Originally Posted by blutach
        It's 4:3 source picture letterboxed. If you want to convert it to true 16:9 WS, run it through DVD Rebuilder, setting the option to convert LB to WS under AVS Expert options.

        Regards
        Hi Blu,

        Q1: When you go from Original Source of 4:3 to output 16:9 ... even with DVD Rebuilder (DVD-RB) doesn't your output result ... like people's head and ... look a little wider!?!?

        Q2: Is the AVS Expert Option available in the PRO only or the FE has it too?

        And a Q3 for all is there a "Dummy-Proof" guide to Avisynth and learning Scripting!?!?

        Thanks,

        G!

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        • dazuk1972
          Digital Video Specialist
          Digital Video Specialist
          • Jul 2005
          • 853

          #5
          Thanks everyone for the information. I can't remember how the footage was originally produced. When I play the pieces of footage in any Media Player, they play OK without the black borders. Some wide screen has the black bars at the top and bottom due to earlier errors where the Media Player screens should stretch to the 1:85 ratio. I'll try DVD rebuilder. Seeing a border on the left and right-hand side of the screen with full-framed footage doesn't bother me so much because I can watch those on the 16:9 TV setting where the black bars are not showing but the shape of the screen is a bit off where people's faces don't look the way they should where they are slightly oval-shaped somehow.

          Many thanks.

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          • dazuk1972
            Digital Video Specialist
            Digital Video Specialist
            • Jul 2005
            • 853

            #6
            Originally Posted by gonwk
            Hi Blu,

            Q1: When you go from Original Source of 4:3 to output 16:9 ... even with DVD Rebuilder (DVD-RB) doesn't your output result ... like people's head and ... look a little wider!?!?

            Q2: Is the AVS Expert Option available in the PRO only or the FE has it too?

            And a Q3 for all is there a "Dummy-Proof" guide to Avisynth and learning Scripting!?!?

            Thanks,

            G!
            It's interesting you asked Blutach that because I used Cyberlink Power Producer to produce some 4:3 footage using MPEG1 and that was when the results had a black bar at the top and bottom and black margins like a black frame around the screen and I had to use the 16:9 setting in my TV to watch it better to get rid of the black bars during my viewing but of course, the black margins were still there. Then I noticed what you asked about and that was; people's heads looked wider except mine didn't look wider, they looked thinner and taller as if the screen was pushed from the sides and the top and bottom had a small bit removed. With the credits, an "O" looked oval-shaped where it looked thin and tall. I tried AVI to see what happens and that was pathetic. A fifteen minute movie of mine jumped from just over 120MB's to about one and-a-half GB's.

            Many thanks for asking your question that confirms my other problem even though your question wasn't for me.
            Last edited by dazuk1972; 23 Jan 2009, 12:23 PM.

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            • gonwk
              Lord of Digital Video
              Lord of Digital Video
              • Dec 2005
              • 1500

              #7
              Originally Posted by dazuk1972
              ...
              Many thanks for asking your question that confirms my other problem even though your question wasn't for me.
              Hi dazuk,

              the only reason I directed my Q to Blu was because he suggested that 4:3 deal so I thought I better bug him instead of bothering the rest of you guys.
              Dazuk ... I am glad my Q ... helped you out!
              G!

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              • dazuk1972
                Digital Video Specialist
                Digital Video Specialist
                • Jul 2005
                • 853

                #8
                Originally Posted by gonwk
                Hi dazuk,

                the only reason I directed my Q to Blu was because he suggested that 4:3 deal so I thought I better bug him instead of bothering the rest of you guys.
                Dazuk ... I am glad my Q ... helped you out!
                G!
                Many thanks for the reply. The problem is, I still can't get all the 4:3 video files producing properly. I can do it with what I filmed but stuff like footage from the internet that friends sent as the 4:3 comes out with the black frame where I have to watch them through my TV on the 16:9 setting to get rid of the black bar at the top and bottom but the left and right-hand side margains are on the screen of course. As you know, we are not supposed to watch 4:3 footage on the 16:9. As I mentioned before, not only does that problem occur, people's faces look slightly oval-shaped as well. The picture quality is always DVD quality, it's the borner thing and the slightly oval-shaped thing that is off-putting. The odd thing is, everything is fine through any Media Player where the 4:3 has no border around the screen and people's faces are not slightly oval-shaped. Somehow, Cyberlink Power Producer changes things to destroy the 4:3 look for a DVD playback for me to play in any DVD machine through my TV. I don't know if that software is the only one causing it or if any other software causes the same where the 4:3 is a stain at times to cope with. It's also odd why my home movies come out the way they are meant to but other people's footage comes out wrong.

                Many thanks.
                Last edited by dazuk1972; 28 Jan 2009, 01:17 PM.

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                • goldmine1
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1

                  #9
                  Bean shaped icon in the middle of the screen

                  I had the same problem and I went to control panel clicked change screen resolution and changed it to default and I am bean shape free.

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                  • MilesAhead
                    Eclectician
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 2615

                    #10
                    With DVD RB the letterboxed portion of the 4x3 has to be very very close to perfect 16x9 or you will get the horizontal stretch as gonwk mentioned. I converted a few that came out that way. Only way to be sure is to slice off a small piece and measure it or convert it. If you can live wiith .avi output I found AutoGK does a better job of autocropping and producing 16x9 .avi from a letterboxed DVD.

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