Fitting my Homemade Trailers onto DVD-R

**2COOL** · 4 Sep 2005, 03:30 AM

Originally Posted by QPhone

In a nutshell, I work in a video store. Part of my job is to create movie trailers that I get (apple trailers, off the dvd etc.) and convert them from their former formats (.mov,.avi.vob.mpg 1...) to dvd format (MPEG 2).

I'm just curious. Since you mention it's part of your job to compile copyrighted trailers, what are you doing with your end product (DVD)? If you are giving it away or selling them, I think that's illegal.

Here's one situation of the misuse of copyrighted trailers.

Another relevant article.

**QPhone** · 4 Sep 2005, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by 2COOL

I'm just curious. Since you mention it's part of your job to compile copyrighted trailers, what are you doing with your end product (DVD)? If you are giving it away or selling them, I think that's illegal.

Here's one situation of the misuse of copyrighted trailers.

Another relevant article.

We don't sell or give these trailers they are used to promote movies which we purchased from our distributors. They are used so that we can promote the movies (which are bought legally) we have in our store.

Have you ever been to blockbuster or rogersvideo here in canada. Guess whats playing and looping on their tV monitors. Trailers with their logos on the bottom right side and movie info on the bottom left side.

Where and how did they get and use the same trailers that you can find either on apple or right off the dvd?

Usually some movie studios (Universal, Disney, Alliance atlantice, Maple Pictures... you get the picture) will send one dvd with at the most 5 - 10 of the latest or upcoming movies.

Now you try and see if you can sit through a looping dvd or vhs of only 5 - 10 MOVIES.

5 - 10 of the same trailers given to you once in a blue moon will not and CAN NOT promote your other movies.

At 4.7GBs I can fit roughly 50 - 60 trailers depending on the size of each trailer.

1. First of all you're only showing 5 - 10 trailers
2. Secondly new realeases are realesed every tuesday of everyweek.

How can I promote those others when I get only one promotional dvd once every few weeks if at all I even get one.

The company we used to buy our movies wholesale from HIP interactive was the best they provided lots of movie trailers on their (Monthly) dvd but unfortunately they company went under

so now, I have to resort to doing this again. As much as it's very time consuming this is the only way our customers can see what's available, what just came out within the last 3 weeks and what's coming soon within the next 2.

Overall each mpg 2 trailer is roughly 30 - 80 MB's and MPG2 quality.

So to answer, no I'm not selling or doing anything illegal. I'm trying to promote the movies that these companies made (movies studios) which we bought and are in our store (dvd rentals and sales video store) so that when customers come in they can see what's available on our tv's that are playing.

Some stores resort to playing a hot new release. But watching a movie over and over for 10 hours is ridiculous and it doesn't promote the other 8 to 10 titles released in a given week.

**2COOL** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by QPhone

We don't sell or give these trailers they are used to promote movies which we purchased from our distributors. They are used so that we can promote the movies (which are bought legally) we have in our store.

Have you ever been to blockbuster or rogersvideo here in canada. Guess whats playing and looping on their tV monitors. Trailers with their logos on the bottom right side and movie info on the bottom left side.

Thanks for the clarification. I hope you can see that without this clarification, your first post would easily lead to some misundertandings. I did say "If you are giving it away or selling them" so the possiblity of just showing the trailers in your store is legal/lawful if it is written in your contractual agreement between your store and your distributer. And yes, I've been to a Blockbuster but not in Canada.

**2COOL** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:11 AM

Personally I haven't used Nero Recode. I've heard that the video quality is the same with DVD Shrink. Did you know they are developed from the same author? Anyways, I've read that Recode doesn't have a Re-author mode like DVD Shrink does. (People, please correct me if I'm wrong) Seeing how you just want a compilation of Titles without menus, which I see you have converted your source files and assumed you have the IFOs for them, then re-authoring in DVD Shrink is the way to go.

One big difference I hear about Recode is that the process time is quicker but again, the video quality is pretty much the same as DVD Shrink.

You can put alot of trailers on a DVD but I personally don't like to go below 70% for compression or else get a higher chance of getting artifacts.

**QPhone** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by 2COOL

Thanks for the clarification. I hope you can see that without this clarification, your first post would easily lead to some misundertandings. I did say "If you are giving it away or selling them" so the possiblity of just showing the trailers in your store is legal/lawful if it is written your contract agreement between your store and your distributer. And yes, I've been to a Blockbuster but not in Canada.

So far the software we purchased are Sony Sound Forge 8, Sony Sound Vegas 6, Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5, Photoshop CS2, and Illustrator CS2. Nero Ultra Edition and TMPGEnc.

The owner of the store is very good about this. He basically said if that's what you need, then go buy it so you can get the work done.

Pretty expensive way just to promote movies which we bought. One would think the movie studios should be providing this without even asking for it.

Sorry for the long speech but going back to the orginal topic would you know how I can compress my mpg 2 trailers using nero recode or any other software you can recommend so that I can buy and use it.

**QPhone** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by 2COOL

Seeing how you just want a compilation of Titles without menus, which I see you have converted your source files and assumed you have the IFOs for them, then re-authoring in DVD Shrink is the way to go.
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For example:

Orginal format - monster inlaw.mov 16 MB
New Format - monster inlaw.mpg (MPEG 2) 40MB with our store logo on bottom right and movie info on bottom left.

So to answer your question, yes... I just want to throw all of these MPG2's onto a dvd-r.

Premiere Pro throws them all onto the time line and exports to dvd but again I have to remove some so that they can fit onto the DVD-R.

I've tinkered with recode but with no luck.

So basically if I can compress as much as I can up to 70% compression (quality doesn't really matter they're just trailers used for promo) then I'll be happy other wise I'm stuck to just using Nero Vision Express and fit as much as I can but most likely limited to about 50 and deleting the ones are 4 weeks old to make room for the new ones which I would add for the following tuesday's releases.

**2COOL** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:21 AM

Why don't you give DVD Shrink a try, it's totally free. You'll be surprised on so many freewares out there that can do what some commercial softwares can do.

**2COOL** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:23 AM

Originally Posted by QPhone

Premiere Pro throws them all onto the time line and exports to dvd but again I have to remove some so that they can fit onto the DVD-R.

open up this DVD in DVD Shrink and use the re-author option. Here's some guides. It's just a matter of dragging. If you are familiar with Recode, then you'll do fine with DVD Shrink.

**QPhone** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by 2COOL

Why do you give DVD Shrink a try, it's totally free. You'll be surprised on so many freewares out there that can do what some commercial softwares can do.

DVD Shrink doesn't import my trailer.mpg (mpg2). These are not .vob files. They are the trailer name.mpg's (mpg2)

I believe shrink only import movies or dvd content that were ripped (Hence .vobs) These are my own compiled mpg2's

Sorry, just getting a bit frustrated 'cause I know I'm sooooo close as to having the ability to just compress my own compiliations

**QPhone** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by 2COOL

open up this DVD in DVD Shrink and use the re-author option. Here's some guides. It's just a matter of dragging. If you are familiar with Recode, then you'll do fine with DVD Shrink.

Again thank you for all your help, much appreciated.
Basically this is how it is. I have 60 files ready to be thrown onto a dvd-r. They haven't been burned yet they're in a folder on my hard drive. That's why Shrink can't import them or use them because they didn't come from a dvd.

That's just it I'm trying to make a dvd (i know how to do) but i need to know what program to use so that i can compress my mpg2 files in order for me to be able to fit more onto a dvd-r

**2COOL** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:39 AM

What I'm trying to get at is first get your source file converted to VOB and have IFO & BUP files associated with them. I assume you have successfully authored a DVD since posted this.

Premiere Pro throws them all onto the time line and exports to dvd but again I have to remove some so that they can fit onto the DVD-R.

The titles in these are not compressed yet. You can play it in a software player, right? Use DVD Shrink's "Open files" icon, let it do its analysis, go to reauthor mode, and drag your Titles. You can drag Titles from different DVD Files on your harddrive using the DVD Browser tab. Just keep in mind of your compression %.

**QPhone** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by 2COOL

What I'm trying to get at is first get your source file converted to VOB and have IFO & BUP files associated with them. I assume you have successfully authored a DVD since posted this.

The titles in these are not compressed yet. You can play it in a software player, right? Use DVD Shrink's "Open files" icon, let it do its analysis, go to reauthor mode, and drag your Titles. You can drag Titles from different DVD Files on your harddrive using the DVD Browser tab. Just keep in mind of your compression %.

Yes, they're not compressed. And yes... I have made playable dvd's already.
So what I think what you're trying to say is:

1. make my new dvd (this week releases) with the new trailers.
1a. rip the trailers so that i can end up with VOB's

2. rip the trailers off my last weeks's dvd

Use shrink to add the new vobs with old vobs and compress them so that they can be reburned.

I can see how that works but in the end I've now doubled my work load.

I just basically need a program that will compress my uncompressed mpg2 then use nerovisionexpress to burn them all onto a dvd-r

If only our store dvd player played dual layer dvd+r's then i would be able to throw more without compression.

when you have 60 trailers playing, believe me more movies that you don't normally rent get rented because now the customers knows about them.

**QPhone** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by 2COOL

What I'm trying to get at is first get your source file converted to VOB and have IFO & BUP files associated with them. I assume you have successfully authored a DVD since posted this.

Is there a program you can recommend that'll do this without having to burn my files onto a dvd first.

A program that will do what you've just mentioned and save it to my hard drive then maybe I can use shrink to open up this folder and have them ready for burning and voila my questions will then have been answered

If I can do the above without burning first (because burnt dvd's have already done the above process to the files) I've just eliminated one job process.

**2COOL** · 4 Sep 2005, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by QPhone

I can see how that works but in the end I've now doubled my work load.

That's the way the game is played. I'll go back to brainstorming.

Fitting my Homemade Trailers onto DVD-R

Fitting my Homemade Trailers onto DVD-R

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