Recode layer break problem to be aware of...

[hatboy]

Hello Cynthia and everyone. I am new here.

Firstly, thank you for your excellent guides Cynthia.

Now I can't find a solution to this anywhere on the web. Perhaps some of you would like to look at it. I'd be really pleased to get the the bottom of it. Thanks.

Is this a Nero bug? What can I do?

I have found this is why my copies stutter and fail half way through playing. How can I put this right? I like Nero Recode but...

How do you turn off layer 2 when creating an NRG image with Recode?

Formerly, in earlier versions when creating a nrg image for a dvd-5, recode would make a single layer image for the single layer disc. Now with v.2.2.6.17 of Recode, when burning a to a dvd-5, the second layer (a blue indicator is shown) starts at about 50 percent.

The problem is when you burn the nrg image to a dvd-5 and then watching on a standalone there is a jump when viewing at, I suppose, a layer break. In the earlier versions there was no blue indicator showing the second layer being burned nor was there a jump at the 50 percent mark.

I have the layer break and PUOP's ticked for removal in the options. I am not burning to DL DVD's... just single layer.

It is as though a layer break is inserted when the progress bar shows a blue second layer burning.

[blutach]

Can you post a Ner0 log please? Sounds more like a burning issue.

Regards

[hatboy]

Thanks for the welcome.

Here is a log. Any ideas. I've ticked "remove layer break" but "layer 2" still goes ahead.

********** Nero Recode **********
Version: 2.2.6.17
Project type: Main Movie to DVD
Target size: Custom (2232320)
03:06:24 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 56
Command table patching started...
03:06:24 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 133
All tables successfully patched!
Burn settings:
Target: Image Recorder
Number of copies: 1
Write speed: 0 KB/s
Temp folder: E:\DVD (41221148672 bytes free)
Direct burning: true
Target media: DVD R/RW, DVD DL, DVD-RAM
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
Compress Adaptive: false
03:06:31 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231
Compile DVD: init
VTS_01 Title Vobs [11664 vobus] 3617.85MB -> 3617.85MB [R 1.00]
Video: 3440.52MB, extra: 177.32MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 154.54MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 0 streams
03:06:31 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
03:07:03 File NeroAPIManager.cpp, Line 580
Writing image to folder E: (41221148672 bytes free)
03:07:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 479
Compile DVD: burning 2232320 sectors (1852406 required)
03:07:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 656
Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4360.00MB (3617.98MB obtained)
03:07:03 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 524
Compiling DVD Volume started
03:07:10 File vob_record.cpp, Line 643
DirectBurn offset: VTS_01_1.VOB 80
03:15:51 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs
VTS_01 Title Vobs:
Original 3617.85MB -> Expected 3617.85MB -> Output 3617.85MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 1
Original encoded = 11663
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 177.07MB
Source video size = 3440.77MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 10]
03:15:56 File dvd_record.cpp, Line 420
DirectBurn offset: VTS_01_0.IFO 32

03:15:58 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 547
Compile DVD: completed successfuly (3617.98MB)
----- Begin NeroAPI error log -----


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 09:20:56
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32

NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 6.6.1.4
Using interface version: 6.6.0.9
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\
Application: Ahead\Nero Recode
Internal Version: 6, 6, 1, 4d

Recorder: < Image Recorder> Version: Not Available - HA -1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <Virtual Device> HA -1
Drive buffer :

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 2B020H1 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-308B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A D: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-308B F: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 0
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523276kB)
Free physical memory: 439MB (449948kB)
Memory in use : 14
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

28.2.2006
NeroAPI
03:07:03 #1 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 3794
Writing image to folder E:\ (41221148672 bytes free)

03:07:03 #2 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 4531
Frist possible LBA for Layerbreak: 931104

03:07:03 #3 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 4532
Last possible LBA for Layerbreak: 2086911

03:07:03 #4 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1010
Estimated filesystem size: 544

03:07:03 #5 Phase 65 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275
Burn process started

03:07:10 #6 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VTS_01_1.VOB at sector 624

03:10:10 #7 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VTS_01_1.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors)

03:10:10 #8 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2259
Added extra file VTS_01_2.VOB

03:10:10 #9 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VTS_01_2.VOB at sector 524911

03:11:56 #10 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1947
Layerbreak-point set at LBA: 931231

03:11:56 #11 CDR -1206 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1951
Burning Layer 2

03:12:27 #12 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VTS_01_2.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors)

03:12:27 #13 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2259
Added extra file VTS_01_3.VOB

03:12:27 #14 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VTS_01_3.VOB at sector 1049196

03:14:53 #15 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VTS_01_3.VOB of size 1073739776 bytes (524287 sectors)

03:14:53 #16 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2259
Added extra file VTS_01_4.VOB

03:14:53 #17 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VTS_01_4.VOB at sector 1573483

03:15:56 #18 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VTS_01_4.VOB of size 572375040 bytes (279480 sectors)

03:15:56 #19 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VTS_01_0.BUP at sector 1852963

03:15:57 #20 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VTS_01_0.BUP of size 71680 bytes (35 sectors)

03:15:58 #21 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VTS_01_0.IFO at sector 576

03:15:58 #22 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VTS_01_0.IFO of size 71680 bytes (35 sectors)

03:15:58 #23 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VIDEO_TS.IFO at sector 544

03:15:58 #24 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VIDEO_TS.IFO of size 6144 bytes (3 sectors)

03:15:58 #25 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 1409
Writing VIDEO_TS.BUP at sector 560

03:15:58 #26 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 2647
Finished writing file VIDEO_TS.BUP of size 6144 bytes (3 sectors)

03:15:58 #27 Phase 175 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275
Finalizing disc started

03:16:02 #28 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

03:16:02 #29 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

03:16:02 #30 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 3275
Writing filesystem of size 1114112 at sector 0

03:16:03 #31 Phase 177 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275
Disc finalized successfully

03:16:03 #32 Phase 66 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275
Burn process completed successfully


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 17/08/2001 14:07:32
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 17/07/2002 08:53:02

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


----- End NeroAPI error log -----

03:16:10 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 301
Compile DVD: exit

[blutach]

Well. It sure appears it is inserting a LB pause in the VTS. Strange. Could be a bug, yes. Notify Ner0. While you're at it, let them know that Frist is not a word (though it could be a good name for an orange juice).

Workaround: Output to DVD Files (IFO/VOB/BUP). Open the output in PgcEdit and check that LB is removed in the main title. Make an ISO (File - Burn) and burn with your fave burning application (eg ImgBurn or DVD Decrypter).

Afterthought: Maybe you have your Ner0 burning ROM set to insert a LB?

Regards

[hatboy]

LOL. Yes I noticed "Frist".

Nero haven't replied to my email already sent. Maybe others might try tellling them about this possible bug.

The above log is one for where I made an NRG image from files (VOB, etc) which were extracted from a DVD to the hard drive by DVDFab Decrypter.

The log below is for Nero Recode extracting direct from an unencrypted DVD to an NRG file.

This log is different, but "writing layer 2" still comes up while Recode is working and the progress bar changes to a lighter blue at that point.

Should I take it that the log is right and there is no layer break in this method?

********** Nero Recode 2 **********
Version: 2.2.6.17

Project type: Main Movie to DVD
Target size: Custom (2232320)
02:24:18 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 56
Command table patching started...
02:24:18 File LangStreamPatcher.cpp, Line 133
All tables successfully patched!
Burn settings:
Target: Image Recorder
Number of copies: 1
Write speed: 0 KB/s
Temp folder: E:\DVD (44438736896 bytes free)
Direct burning: true
Target media: DVD R/RW, DVD DL, DVD-RAM
Shutdown when finished: false
Advanced Analysis: false
Compress Adaptive: false
02:25:20 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 231
Compile DVD: init
VTS_01 Title Vobs [11664 vobus] 3617.85MB -> 3617.85MB [R 1.00]
Video: 3440.52MB, extra: 177.32MB
Audio: 1 streams
0. 0. Dolby Digital 2-ch English 154.54MB [enabled]
Subpicture: 0 streams
02:25:51 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1152
Compile DVD: begin copy 1
02:26:10 File NeroAPIManager.cpp, Line 580
Writing image to folder C:\Documents and Settings\Paul\My Documents (4292214784 bytes free)
02:26:10 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 479
Compile DVD: burning 2232320 sectors (1852406 required)
02:26:10 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 656
Compile DVD: adjust target size to 4360.00MB (3617.98MB obtained)
02:26:10 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 524
Compiling DVD Volume started
02:26:29 File vob_record.cpp, Line 643
DirectBurn offset: VTS_01_1.VOB 80
02:37:34 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 1058
Compile DVD: finished VTS_01 Title Vobs
VTS_01 Title Vobs:
Original 3617.85MB -> Expected 3617.85MB -> Output 3617.85MB
Finished error -0.00MB
Ratio encoded = 1
Original encoded = 11663
Slide encoded = 0
StillImage encoded = 0
Output extra size = 177.07MB
Source video size = 3440.77MB
Pictures Modified [I 0] [P 0] [B 10]
02:38:02 File dvd_record.cpp, Line 420
DirectBurn offset: VTS_01_0.IFO 32

02:38:05 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 547
Compile DVD: completed successfuly (3617.98MB)
----- Begin NeroAPI error log -----


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 09:20:56
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32

NT-SPTI used
Nero API version: 6.6.1.4
Using interface version: 6.6.0.9
Installed in: C:\Program Files\Ahead\NeroVision\NeroFiles\
Application: Ahead\Nero Recode
Internal Version: 6, 6, 1, 4d

Recorder: < Image Recorder> Version: Not Available - HA -1 TA 0 - 6.6.1.4
Adapter driver: <Virtual Device> HA -1
Drive buffer :

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 2B020H1 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-308B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
SONY DVD RW DW-Q30A D: CDRom0
SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-308B F: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 0
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523276kB)
Free physical memory: 420MB (430912kB)
Memory in use : 17
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

28.2.2006
NeroAPI
02:38:23 #1 Phase 175 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275
Finalizing disc started

02:38:26 #2 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

02:38:26 #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3312
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

02:38:26 #4 Text 0 File BurnAtOnceRecorder.cpp, Line 3275
Writing filesystem of size 1114112 at sector 0

02:38:26 #5 Phase 177 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275
Disc finalized successfully

02:38:26 #6 Phase 66 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 275
Burn process completed successfully


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 17/08/2001 14:07:32
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 17/07/2002 08:53:02

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


----- End NeroAPI error log -----

02:38:30 File burn_dvdfiles.cpp, Line 301
Compile DVD: exit

[hatboy]

"This log is different, but "writing layer 2" still comes up while Recode is working and the progress bar changes to a lighter blue at that point.

Should I take it that the log is right and there is no layer break in this method?"

See above. Any ideas?

[nosam77]

The log below is for Nero Recode extracting direct from an unencrypted DVD to an NRG file.

This log is different, but "writing layer 2" still comes up while Recode is working and the progress bar changes to a lighter blue at that point.

Should I take it that the log is right and there is no layer break in this method?<virtual device="">

Is there still a "jump" on the dvd when viewing on a standalone player when using this method?

I've only tried Recode once (usually use DVD Shrink) and while I saw the "writing layer 2" blue progress bar show up, I didn't notice any weirdness during playback on my standalone. The version I used was </virtual>2.2.7.6 and updated to 2.2.8.5 today - will experiment tomorrow with this version to see if the bug is still there. You may also want to update to the latest version as well since the version you're using was released way back in July 7, 2005.

Until this problem is confirmed, I don't want to waste any discs/time making backups with Recode.

[nosam77]

Ok, I updated to Nero 7.0.8.2 and it includes version 2.2.8.5 of Recode in the package. Making sure the "remove layer break" box is checked, I tried backing up a movie just to see what happens.



As you can see, it still burns layer 2 even though I am backing up into a single layer disc. I didn't save the log but I did see the "recording layer 2" line. I'm not sure if this example had any playback problems since I didn't bother to burn it onto a blank dvd.

I guess it's back to DVD Shrink for me for the time being. Hope this helps.