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[Fenster]

Hi, everybody. I don't want to start a new thread because I'm having the same problem as the original poster: I'm having trouble burning DL DVD. Here's the ImgBurn's log:
I 00:05:31 ImgBurn Version 2.3.0.0 started!
I 00:05:31 Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (5.2, Build 3790 : Service Pack 1)
I 00:05:31 Total Physical Memory: 1 046 904 KB - Available: 547 060 KB
I 00:05:31 Initialising SPTI...
I 00:05:31 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 00:05:31 Found 1 DVD±RW!
I 00:06:38 Operation Started!
I 00:06:38 Source File: D:\sicily.mds
I 00:06:38 Source File Sectors: 3 997 920 (MODE1/2048)
I 00:06:38 Source File Size: 8 187 740 160 bytes
I 00:06:38 Source File Volume Identifier: SICILY_2005
I 00:06:38 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 00:06:38 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 00:06:38 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.02)
I 00:06:38 Destination Device: [0:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (F (ATA)
I 00:06:38 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-D01-01) (Speeds: 2,4x)
I 00:06:38 Destination Media Sectors: 4 173 824
I 00:06:38 Write Mode: DVD
I 00:06:38 Write Type: DAO
I 00:06:38 Write Speed: 2,4x
I 00:06:38 Link Size: Auto
I 00:06:38 Test Mode: No
I 00:06:38 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 00:06:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1 998 960
I 00:06:38 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 00:07:21 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 00:07:23 Writing LeadIn...
I 00:07:25 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 3997919)
I 00:07:25 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1998959)
W 00:15:28 Failed to Write Sectors 801664 - 801695 - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:28 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 00:15:28 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:48 Retrying (21)...
W 00:15:48 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:48 Retrying (22)...
W 00:15:48 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:15:49 Retrying (23)...
W 00:15:49 Retry Failed - Write Error
E 00:15:50 Failed to Write Sectors 801664 - 801695 - Write Error
I 00:15:50 Synchronising Cache...
I 00:15:51 Closing Track...
E 00:15:54 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Write Error
I 00:15:54 Closing Track (Last Attempt!)...
E 00:15:54 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Write Error
I 00:15:54 Finalising Disc...
E 00:15:59 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session
I 00:15:59 Finalising Disc (Last Attempt!)...
E 00:15:59 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session
E 00:15:59 Failed to Write Image!
E 00:16:02 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:09:21
I 00:16:02 Average Write Rate: 3 181 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3 465 KB/s (2.5x)

it happened at about 12% of completion. It happend 5 times in a row. Any ideas?
I'm using Philips DVD+R DL media, my DVD drive firmware is up to date.

UPDATE: checked the list of recommended media for my burner and it says that only Verbatim DL DVDs are recommended. This leads to another question: can the error which I'm getting (see log above) be caused by "bad" media? "The Golden rules of burning" by Blutach says "Only use Verbatim for DL burning" but what if my problem is not media-related....

[Chewy]

your drive may me a little too old to write dual layer, they wear out

if it's still writing single layer and doing a good job verified by scanning with cdspeed then I would keep it, but dl are too expensive to waste on an older drive

[Fenster]

Chewy does nec AD-7173 look like a good replacement? or which one would you recommend? thanks.

[Chewy]

I have been a big fan of nec over the years, but Samsung seems to be building a better product now

[Fenster]

samsung sh-s183a looks good. does it?

[Chewy]

I try to stay away from the newest model until it gets better firmware support

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=210511

didn't even see it at newegg

the 182 is a good drive also, some issues with dvd-r leadin?

[Fenster]

thank you, Chewy. I think I'll give my NEC another chance with Verbatim DLs and if it fails, I'll upgrade to the new drive.

UPDATE: looks like my burner really loves only Verbatim DLs. One burn OK, second - in progress.

[Fenster]

attempts #2 and #3 were unsuccessful. here's latest log:

I 00:31:03 Source File: D:\cellular.mds
I 00:31:03 Source File Sectors: 3 521 648 (MODE1/2048)
I 00:31:03 Source File Size: 7 212 335 104 bytes
I 00:31:03 Source File Volume Identifier: CELLULAR
I 00:31:03 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.3.0.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 00:31:03 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 00:31:03 Source File File System(s): ISO9660; UDF (1.02)
I 00:31:03 Destination Device: [0:1:0] _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW 3.07 (F (ATA)
I 00:31:03 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2,4x; 4x)
I 00:31:03 Destination Media Sectors: 4 173 824
I 00:31:03 Write Mode: DVD
I 00:31:03 Write Type: DAO
I 00:31:03 Write Speed: 2x
I 00:31:03 Link Size: Auto
I 00:31:03 Test Mode: No
I 00:31:03 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 00:31:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1 971 168
I 00:31:03 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 00:31:41 Filling Buffer... (20 MB)
I 00:31:41 Writing LeadIn...
I 00:31:43 Writing Image... (LBA: 0 - 3521647)
I 00:31:43 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1971167)
W 00:39:20 Failed to Write Sectors 759744 - 759775 - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
W 00:39:20 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 00:39:20 Retry Failed - Write Error
E 00:43:57 Failed to Write Sectors 759744 - 759775 - Write Error
I 00:43:57 Synchronising Cache...
I 00:43:58 Closing Track...
E 00:44:00 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Write Error
I 00:44:00 Closing Track (Last Attempt!)...
E 00:44:00 Close Track Failed! - Reason: Write Error
I 00:44:00 Finalising Disc...
E 00:44:01 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session
I 00:44:01 Finalising Disc (Last Attempt!)...
E 00:44:01 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Session Fixation Error - Incomplete Track in Session
E 00:44:01 Failed to Write Image!
E 00:44:01 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:12:57
I 00:44:01 Average Write Rate: 2 070 KB/s (1.5x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3 465 KB/s (2.5x)

looks like the same error as with philips DLs before.
guess it's time for the upgrade

[Chewy]

make sure it's not a weak power supply, connect the dvd burner to the power supply with a straight run and nothing sharing power in that line of connectors

test the burner by burning at the fastest speed possible on a single layer disk

do you have the burner slaved to another device, bad practise

[Fenster]

As for me, my burner is primary master with no slaves (all hdds are sata). Burns SLs at 16x just fine. power connected is a direct line to power supply.

[Chewy]

fenster
are you using default ms ide drivers? filter driver load clean(see tools imgburn)?
log said burned at 2x but the burn speed is 2.4 for that media???????

Destination Device: [0:1:0]

just for my curiosity, the burner is master on what ide controller?

[Chewy]

moved your part of dual layer problems fenster here so luk and blutach might
see something I don't

[Fenster]

my burner is master on primary IDE controller.

i've set the speed to 2x manually. tried later with 2,4x with same result

yes, i'm using default ms ide drivers
===============================================
Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.3.0.0
===============================================

Upper Device Filter: redbook
Upper Class Filter: [None Found]
Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
Lower Class Filter: [None Found]
Lower Device Filter: imapi

Filter Name: redbook
File Name:
File Version:
File Description:
Product Name:
Product Version:
Company Name:
Copyright:

Filter Name: imapi
File Name:
File Version:
File Description:
Product Name:
Product Version:
Company Name:
Copyright:

[Fenster]

3 successful burns with samsung 183. problem seems to be solved with drive upgrade

[Chewy]

my 3520 burned a few hundred disks then I gave it to my son, he burned a few hundred, I scanned some of the last disks it burned, they were awful, we retired it.

good thing new ones are so cheap