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  • rock_king_my
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    • Jul 2006
    • 162

    Vobblanker - Tried to replace menu but failed

    Hi.

    I tried to replace a menu background (for languages menu) with a modified one in VOBBLANKER. I already have Vobblanker linked to Muxman.

    The original languages menu was a stills menu & has no audio in background.

    1. I click on the TitleSet where the languages menu can be found which is in VTS_01_*.VOB.
    2. I click on the menu button on the right
    3. Click on the English language & choose the PGC with the menu I wanted to change which is PGC 04
    4. Click on Cells button & click on PRG 1 which where the menu is
    5. Click on Still button, choose File & select the revised .BMP menu background , click OK/Apply/OK
    6. Tick the following settings:
    - Process Titles
    - Process Menus
    - Remove PUOPs in VOBs
    - Remove PUOPs in IFOs
    7. Click on Process button & wait.

    After process ended, I tested the revised DVD & it still got the old original language menu!

    So what did I do wrong here?

    Here's the Process Log:
    Version 2.1.3.0. Starting new process:


    =========== STARTING VTS_01 ====================
    VTS 01: Opening IFO
    VTS 01: Processing VOB (Menus)
    --------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 01: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 01
    VTS 01: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 02
    VTS 01: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 03
    VTS 01: Cell Based Menu LU 01, PGC 04
    Skiping already processed cell # 1, VID=7 CID=1
    VTS 01: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 12
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 03/01 --> 03/01
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 04/01 --> 04/01
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 05/01 --> 05/01
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 06/01 --> 06/01
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 07/01 --> 07/01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 01: Cell data array filled (Menus)
    VTS 01: Processing IFO (Menu)
    Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
    Building VTSM_C_ADT table
    Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 01: Processing VOB (Titles)
    --------------TITLE VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 01: Keeping PGC 01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/02 --> 01/02
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/03 --> 01/03
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/04 --> 01/04
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/05 --> 01/05
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/06 --> 01/06
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/07 --> 01/07
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/08 --> 01/08
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/09 --> 01/09
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/10 --> 01/10
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/11 --> 01/11
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/12 --> 01/12
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/13 --> 01/13
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/14 --> 01/14
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/15 --> 01/15
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/16 --> 01/16
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/17 --> 01/17
    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 01: Cell data array filled (Titles)
    VTS 01: Processing IFO (Titles)
    Looping into Title PGCs and cells
    Processing TMPATI table
    Added 1962 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 1
    Generated a TMAPTI table with same # of sectors than original
    Building VTS_C_ADT table
    Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 01: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
    =========== VTS_01 FINISHED =====================

    =========== STARTING VTS_02 ====================
    VTS 02: Opening IFO
    VTS 02: Processing VOB (Menus)
    --------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 02: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 02: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 02: Cell data array filled (Menus)
    VTS 02: Processing IFO (Menu)
    Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
    Building VTSM_C_ADT table
    Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 02: Processing VOB (Titles)
    --------------TITLE VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 02: Keeping PGC 01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 02: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VTS 02: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 02: Cell data array filled (Titles)
    VTS 02: Processing IFO (Titles)
    Looping into Title PGCs and cells
    Processing TMPATI table
    NOTE: PGC: 1 is too short. No entries in TMAPTI are created
    Added 0 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 1
    Generated a TMAPTI table with same # of sectors than original
    Building VTS_C_ADT table
    Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 02: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
    =========== VTS_02 FINISHED =====================

    =========== STARTING VTS_03 ====================
    VTS 03: Opening IFO
    VTS 03: Processing VOB (Menus)
    --------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 03: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 03: Cell data array filled (Menus)
    VTS 03: Processing IFO (Menu)
    Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
    Building VTSM_C_ADT table
    Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 03: Processing VOB (Titles)
    --------------TITLE VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 03: Keeping PGC 01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VTS 03: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 03: Cell data array filled (Titles)
    VTS 03: Processing IFO (Titles)
    Looping into Title PGCs and cells
    Processing TMPATI table
    Added 93 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 1
    Generated a TMAPTI table with same # of sectors than original
    Building VTS_C_ADT table
    Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 03: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
    =========== VTS_03 FINISHED =====================

    =========== STARTING VTS_04 ====================
    VTS 04: Opening IFO
    VTS 04: Processing VOB (Menus)
    --------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 04: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 04: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 04: Cell data array filled (Menus)
    VTS 04: Processing IFO (Menu)
    Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
    Building VTSM_C_ADT table
    Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 04: Processing VOB (Titles)
    --------------TITLE VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 04: Keeping PGC 01
    VTS 04: Keeping PGC 02
    VTS 04: Keeping PGC 03
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 04: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VTS 04: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    VTS 04: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 03/01 --> 03/01
    VTS 04: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 04/01 --> 04/01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 04: Cell data array filled (Titles)
    VTS 04: Processing IFO (Titles)
    Looping into Title PGCs and cells
    Processing TMPATI table
    Added 1593 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 1
    Added 294 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 2
    Added 157 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 3
    Generated a TMAPTI table with same # of sectors than original
    Building VTS_C_ADT table
    Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 04: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
    =========== VTS_04 FINISHED =====================

    =========== STARTING VTS_05 ====================
    VTS 05: Opening IFO
    VTS 05: Processing VOB (Menus)
    --------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 05: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 05: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 05: Cell data array filled (Menus)
    VTS 05: Processing IFO (Menu)
    Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
    Building VTSM_C_ADT table
    Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 05: Processing VOB (Titles)
    --------------TITLE VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 05: Keeping PGC 01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 05: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VTS 05: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 05: Cell data array filled (Titles)
    VTS 05: Processing IFO (Titles)
    Looping into Title PGCs and cells
    Processing TMPATI table
    NOTE: PGC: 1 is too short. No entries in TMAPTI are created
    Added 0 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 1
    Generated a TMAPTI table with same # of sectors than original
    Building VTS_C_ADT table
    Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 05: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
    =========== VTS_05 FINISHED =====================

    =========== STARTING VTS_06 ====================
    VTS 06: Opening IFO
    VTS 06: Processing VOB (Menus)
    --------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 06: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 06: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 06: Cell data array filled (Menus)
    VTS 06: Processing IFO (Menu)
    Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
    Building VTSM_C_ADT table
    Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 06: Processing VOB (Titles)
    --------------TITLE VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VTS 06: Keeping PGC 01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VTS 06: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VTS 06: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    --------------TITLE VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VTS 06: Cell data array filled (Titles)
    VTS 06: Processing IFO (Titles)
    Looping into Title PGCs and cells
    Processing TMPATI table
    NOTE: PGC: 1 is too short. No entries in TMAPTI are created
    Added 0 entries in TMAPTI of PGC 1
    Generated a TMAPTI table with same # of sectors than original
    Building VTS_C_ADT table
    Filling VTS_VOBU_ADMAP table
    VTS 06: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
    =========== VTS_06 FINISHED =====================

    =========== STARTING VIDEO MANAGER ===========
    VIDEO_TS: Opening IFO
    VIDEO_TS: Processing VOB (Menus)
    --------------MENU VOB PREPARING PHASE-
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 02
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 03
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 04
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 10
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 11
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 13
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 14
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 15
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 16
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 19
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 20
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 21
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 22
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Menu LU 01, PGC 23
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING PHASE STARTED-
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 01/01 --> 01/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 02/01 --> 02/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 03/01 --> 03/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 04/01 --> 04/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 05/01 --> 05/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 06/01 --> 06/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 07/01 --> 07/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 08/01 --> 08/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 09/01 --> 09/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 10/01 --> 10/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 11/01 --> 11/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 12/01 --> 12/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 13/01 --> 13/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 14/01 --> 14/01
    VIDEO_TS: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 15/01 --> 15/01
    --------------MENU VOB WRITING FINISHED-
    VIDEO_TS: Cell data array filled (Menus)
    VIDEO_TS: Processing IFO (Menu)
    Looping into Menu PGCs and cells
    Building VTSM_C_ADT table
    Filling VTSM_VOBU_ADMAP table
    Copying Titles video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_01.IFO
    Copying Menus video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_01.IFO
    Copying Titles video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_02.IFO
    Copying Menus video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_02.IFO
    Copying Titles video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_03.IFO
    Copying Menus video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_03.IFO
    Copying Titles video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_04.IFO
    Copying Menus video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_04.IFO
    Copying Titles video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_05.IFO
    Copying Menus video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_05.IFO
    Copying Titles video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_06.IFO
    Copying Menus video/audio/subs attributes from VTS_06.IFO
    VIDEO_TS: Processing IFO (Ending and writting)
    =========== VIDEO MANAGER FINISHED ===========


    PostCommands changed into Precommands in 0 PGCs of a total of 0

    Finished. No Errors, 0 Warnings, 3 Notes
  • blutach
    Not a god of digital video
    • Oct 2004
    • 24627

    #2
    First, you can tick "Use Input Folder", untick "Process Titles" and only select the VTSs you want to work on. This make the process finish a LOT quicker.

    VTS 01: Cell Based Menu LU 01, PGC 04
    Skiping already processed cell # 1, VID=7 CID=1

    VTS 01: Keeping Cell VID/CID: 07/01 --> 07/01
    It seems that it has skipped what you want to do - had you already processed this cell and not closed and re-opened VobBlanker?

    Regards
    Last edited by blutach; 11 Aug 2007, 08:47 AM.
    Les

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    • rock_king_my
      Platinum Member
      Platinum Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 162

      #3
      Blanking & Menu replacing

      Hi

      Yeah I kinda did!

      After ripping the DVD to my HDD, I put it though VOBBLANKER and did blanking, stripping (of unwanted audios) & menu replacing in one process.

      This first output blanked what I wanted but didn't replace my new menu so I used that output for menu replacing again (which is what I said in the 1st post making this the 2nd output).

      I didn't tick use input folder because I didn't want to overwrite things in case it went wrong [which it did!]. Is that ok?

      Do I need to start all over again one press at a time?

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      • blutach
        Not a god of digital video
        • Oct 2004
        • 24627

        #4
        Yeah, just run the replace again. I always use Input folder - that way, things are kept together and you only process what you need to. Also tick and save to registry under "More" the 2 bottom left options - Use backup folder in VIDEO_TS and Multiple backup folders. This way, you never lose anything till you decide to delete the project after burning.

        As well, I always leave the PUOps unticked, as I usually set my own in PgcEdit - your choice, but remember, if you have a DVD with Angles/ILVUs (which VobBlanker doesn't handle anyway), this can cause unintended consequences.

        Regards
        Les

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        Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
        [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

        Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

        Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


        You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

        Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

        Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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        • rock_king_my
          Platinum Member
          Platinum Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 162

          #5
          Tried replacing menu only - Still didn't work

          Hi

          I even tried replacing menu first (no stripping, no blanking) with VOBBLANKER but still nothing works.

          I did ticked use input folder & got a backup. Now I wanna keep the original & deleted the new output so where's my original DVD ... in the backup folder? Can I delete the DVd outside the backup folder?

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          • blutach
            Not a god of digital video
            • Oct 2004
            • 24627

            #6
            Yeah - in the backup folder. Copy all the files in there into the project folder and you're back to square 1.

            Regards
            Les

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            Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
            [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

            Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

            Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


            You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

            Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

            Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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            • rock_king_my
              Platinum Member
              Platinum Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 162

              #7
              So what's next?

              Hi.

              So what what can I try next? Can I replace the menu background with PGCEDIT or anything else?

              When I choose a BMP file, the path on the "browse" part then says the "temp working folder" I chose in settings earlier and always ends wih .VOB. I thought it should end with .BMP as I chose a BMP file.

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              • blutach
                Not a god of digital video
                • Oct 2004
                • 24627

                #8
                Just substitute the BMP and ensure your temp and muxman paths are set up right. Choose "file" as you did and browse to it. Works for me

                Regards
                Les

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                Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
                [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

                Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

                Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

                Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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                • r0lZ
                  Lord of Digital Video
                  Lord of Digital Video
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1508

                  #9
                  Personally, instead of using the file dialog, I drag and drop the BMP over the "still" window. You should see the change immediately in the preview. OK your way to the main window, untick "process titles" but be sure tu enable "process menus" and "use input folder" and mark the relevant VTS to be processed. All other VTSs can be skipped. Click the PROCESS! button, and reload your DVD in a player to verify.
                  Also, follow blutach's advice about the backup options, for safety.
                  Last edited by r0lZ; 11 Aug 2007, 06:25 PM.
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