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  • ccanalia
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2005
    • 14

    DVD+R vs DVD-R

    Hi,

    I am using a I/O Magic Dual Layer 16x DVD burner with DVD Shrink and the latest version of Nero. I have WinXP Pro SP2 with Intel P4 2.8ghz and 256MB RAM. I have found the Sony and TDK work like a charm, while Samsung and Verbatium get rejected frequently. I went through a stack of TDK DVD+R discs and didnt have any issues and there werent any wasted disks. I bought a pack of DVD-R discs and got through the first 15 or 20 discs without any problems and then I kept getting error after error. I switched to the other DVD+R discs and again didnt have any issue at all. Here is my error log:
    Windows XP 5.1
    IA32
    WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=45056 bytes, created 8/14/2002 3:03:36 PM
    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 5:35:34 PM
    Nero Version: 6.6.0.8
    Recorder: <DVDRW IDE 16X> Version: A082 - HA 3 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
    Adapter driver: <> HA 3
    Drive buffer : 2048kB
    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
    CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8483B>Version: 1.05 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
    CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8483B atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
    CdRomPeripheral : TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1212 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD1600JD-00FYB0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD400JD-75HKA1 atapi Port 2 ID 0 DMA: On

    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
    HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8483 E: CDRom0
    TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1212 F: CDRom1
    DVDRW IDE 16X G: CDRom5
    =======================

    AutoRun : 1
    Excluded drive IDs:
    WriteBufferSize: 39845888 (0) Byte
    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
    BUFE : 0
    Physical memory : 246MB (251996kB)
    Free physical memory: 88MB (90412kB)
    Memory in use : 64 %
    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
    Use Inquiry : 1
    Global Bus Type: default (0)
    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

    8.4.2005
    UDF/ISO compilation
    9:24:57 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation started

    9:24:57 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

    9:24:57 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6172
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate : FALSE
    Write : TRUE
    Finalize CD : TRUE
    Multisession : FALSE
    Burning mode : DAO
    Mode : 1
    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set : ISO 9660
    Joliet :FALSE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

    9:24:57 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    DVD-Video files sorted

    9:24:57 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running

    9:24:57 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer DVDRW IDE 16X running

    9:24:57 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    9:24:57 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

    9:24:57 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

    9:24:57 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52, 4465MB)

    9:24:57 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 271
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

    9:24:57 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2316
    Recorder: DVDRW IDE 16X, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: TTG02 -
    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

    9:24:57 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 433
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================

    9:24:57 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
    original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [DVDRW IDE 16X]
    --------------------------------------------------------------

    9:24:57 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
    Prepare recorder [DVDRW IDE 16X] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
    MCN: ""
    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
    Tracks 1 to 1:
    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
    2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

    9:25:27 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started

    9:25:28 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
    Cache writing successful.

    9:25:28 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed

    9:25:28 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 8x (11,080 KB/s)

    9:25:28 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

    9:25:28 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2194
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

    9:25:28 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21235
    Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON

    9:25:28 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2340
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

    9:25:28 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
    Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

    9:25:28 PM #25 CDR -1207 File DVDR.cpp, Line 4772
    Book Type automatically set to: Current recorder setting

    9:25:36 PM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
    21:25:36.312 - DVDRW IDE 16X\H3 T0 : Queue again later

    9:25:37 PM #27 SCSI -500 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1435
    SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03FC0000
    Status: 0x02 (0x03, SCSI_ABORTED)
    HA-Status 0x10 (0x0A, SCSI_HASTAT_REQUEST_SENSE_FAILED)
    TA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
    Sense Code: 0x26
    Sense Qual: 0x02
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x60 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0xF0 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x26 0x02

    9:25:38 PM #28 SCSI -1114 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1435
    SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x045B1600
    Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key: 0x06 (KEY_UNIT_ATTENTION)
    Sense Code: 0x29
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x60 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
    0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x29 0x00

    9:25:38 PM #29 CDR -1114 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Reset occurred

    9:25:38 PM #30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion

    9:25:38 PM #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader

    9:25:38 PM #32 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2603
    EndDAO: Last written address was 607

    9:25:38 PM #33 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5408
    Drive: DVDRW IDE 16X
    Book Type request [BTC]: DVD+RW
    Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

    9:25:38 PM #34 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process failed at 8x (11,080 KB/s)


    Existing drivers:
    File 'Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS': Ver=7.0.0.162 , size=24576 bytes, created 1/27/2004 2:32:00 PM
    File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0001), size=17005 bytes, created 8/14/2002 3:03:36 PM
    File 'WNASPINT.DLL': Ver=V1.18, size=57344 bytes, created 11/2/2002 9:53:04 AM
    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.26a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/12/2005 2:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/3/2004 10:59:44 PM (Adapter driver for src)

    Registry Keys:
    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


    It has been my understanding that any time there is this:
    Media Specific [16..63]:
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    that is typically the problem, but why would I have no problem with the first part of the pack?

    I made sure my firmware was up to date on my burner and everything. Can anyone help?

    ~C
  • blutach
    Not a god of digital video
    • Oct 2004
    • 24627

    #2
    Yes that indicates your media isn't liked by your burner.

    You are not the first person who has had problems with that burner - see here.

    Couple of things:

    1. 9:24:57 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2316
    Recorder: DVDRW IDE 16X, Media type: DVD-R
    Disc Manufacturer: TTG02 -

    9:25:38 PM #33 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 5408
    Drive: DVDRW IDE 16X
    Book Type request [BTC]: DVD+RW
    Changing the Book Type was finished successfully, return code 0

    You are trying to change the booktype. Can't be done on an -R - see what's bitsetting in my sig.

    2. Slow burn down to 4x max

    Read Golden rules of burning in my sig.

    Regards
    Last edited by blutach; 9 Apr 2005, 07:54 PM.
    Les

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    • Mig$y
      Retired
      • Jan 2004
      • 2966

      #3
      Originally posted by blutach

      You are trying to change the booktype. Can't be done on an +R - see what's bitsetting in my sig.
      You mean -R, right Blu'?


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      • blutach
        Not a god of digital video
        • Oct 2004
        • 24627

        #4
        Errr.... yes. typo. Sorry. Corrected in original post. TY.

        Regards
        Les

        Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

        Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
        [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

        Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

        Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


        You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

        Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

        Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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        • Rebel985
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 34

          #5
          I had a problem with that burner, and i had to return it. I bought it from Circuit City. The movies would burn, and then when i would play it back, it would freeze up at the end. I swapped it out for a Lite-On, and havent had any problems since!!!

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          • LT. Columbo
            Demigod of Digital Video
            • Nov 2004
            • 10671

            #6
            yes lite-on is pretty good, i must say, cd and dvd burners...
            "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
            Columbo moments...
            "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
            "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
            (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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            • blutach
              Not a god of digital video
              • Oct 2004
              • 24627

              #7
              So many ppl are reporting problems with this burner - it would be on my list of "never buys".

              Regards
              Les

              Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

              Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
              [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

              Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

              Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


              You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

              Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

              Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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              • LT. Columbo
                Demigod of Digital Video
                • Nov 2004
                • 10671

                #8
                i think a lot of those problems can may be traced to issues seperate from that of the actual burner. rock on lite-on!

                HOWEVER one thing i will say, their tech support is the biggest joke i have ever seen, the most useless bunch of morons ever. i was inquiring about media compatibility lists, and as i asked some basic questions nobody was consistent or had any significant knowledge.i could not a get a real answer to anything! i was quite suprised.i hope someone from lite-on sees this too!

                if you do require support for a lite-on device, don't call tech support, ask your dog. you are guaranteed to get better advice.

                "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
                Columbo moments...
                "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
                "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
                (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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                • blutach
                  Not a god of digital video
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 24627

                  #9
                  @columbo



                  Regards
                  Les

                  Essential progs - [PgcEdit] [VobBlanker] [MenuShrink] [IfoEdit] [Muxman] [DVD Remake Pro] [DVD Rebuilder] [BeSweet] [Media Player Classic] [DVDSubEdit] [ImgBurn]

                  Media and Burning - [Golden Rules of Burning] [Media quality] [Fix your DMA] [Update your Firmware] [What's my Media ID Code?] [How to test your disc]
                  [What's bitsetting?] [Burn dual layer disks safely] [Why not to burn with Ner0] [Interpret Ner0's burn errors] [Got bad playback?] [Burner/Media compatibility]

                  Cool Techniques - [2COOL's guides] [Clean your DVD] [Join a flipper] [Split into 2 DVDs] [Save heaps of Mb] [How to mock strip] [Cool Insert Clips]

                  Real useful info - [FAQ INDEX] [Compression explained] [Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams] [DVD-Replica] [Fantastic info on DVDs]


                  You should only use genuine Verbatim or Taiyo Yuden media. Many thanks to www.pcx.com.au for their supply and great service.

                  Explore the sites and the programs - there's a gold mine of information in them

                  Don't forget to play the Digital Digest Quiz!!! (Click here)

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