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  • Chewstay
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 2

    95% Work in standalone, why dont these

    I have been burning DVDs now for about 6 months. Just recently I have been having problems where the DVD will play fine in my computer, but not anywhere else.

    Only some movies are like this, and I have tried reburning those dvds over and over again with different methods unsuccessfully. I have searched through the forums and tried various problem solutions for people facing the same dilemma, and none of worked. I will try to include as much info as I can of what ive done so far.

    Hardware

    I have 2 computers with DVD burners and these movies are not working in either.

    First is a p4 3.4, 1gb 400mhz ram with a 4x Sony DVD+/- DW-D56A DVD/CD burner. This computer is a laptop.

    Second is a p4 2.8 ghz, 512mb 333mhz ram, LG DVDRAM GSA-4081B dvd burner.

    Media

    I have only started having problems with my burns when my local store upgraded their blank media from 4x to 8x, no longer carrying the 4x. I do not suspect that this is the problem since the bad burns only happen with specific movies.

    Im using Memorex DVD-R because some of my DVD players have had problems in the past with DVD+R.

    Standalone DVD Players
    Xbox
    PS2
    Sony DVP-NS725P
    Old Toshiba, circa 2000 no idea model number its upstairs
    Some Wal-Mart brand TV+DVD in 1 combo

    Movies Ive had problems with

    The Last Casino
    People vs Larry Flynt
    Showgirls


    What ive tried so far:

    BTW One of those movies needs no compression as its below the size of 1DVD. So i dont see a problem being with compression or "shrinking".

    DVDDecrypter and DVD Shrink:
    I have tried backing up the files to my hard drive. I have tried copying the CD directly in DVDShrink using both Decrypter and Nero. I have made an iso from the files and burned it using nero and decrypter. I have tried going directly to iso from the DVD using both programs, then burning.

    I downloaded and tried DVD43 to remove any kind of copy protection, and burning again.

    I have tried copying the disc with DVDXcopy Xpress as well, unsuccessfully.

    I have read posts for 2 days on these forums and doom9 forums doing all these little tricks like burning at a slower speed, following the "golden rules of burning", etc. Ive tried so many different things I dont even know what ive done anymore other than make enough coasters for a small army.

    Before I give up totally I wanted to post to see if anyone has any ideas before I go out and try to buy new media to test out, or anything else.

    The things I haven't tried so far, upgrading firmware, ripping the movie to divx and burning just that (), burning at 1x (2x is the lowest ive gone).

    Oh one last thing, one dvd in particular, The Last Casino, when I put it into DVD Decrypter to backup the files or into an iso, this message comes up:

    W 11:59:36 Possible Structure Protection Found!
    W 11:59:36 1 area has been marked as 'suspect'.
    W 11:59:36 Dummy sectors will be inserted where necessary.


    When I start to back it up, this message comes up:

    Encryption Detected!
    File: VTS_01_0.vob (repeats for following vobs)
    LBA: 389

    The disc is not supposed to be protected by CSS/CPPM so this is somewhat strange! Would you like to try to decrypt the encrypted data?


    I guess this message is the last thing I haven't had a chance to deal with yet.

    So thanks in advance, and any ideas?
  • setarip
    Retired
    • Dec 2001
    • 24955

    #2
    Welcome to the Digital Video Forums of Digital Digest!


    "I have only started having problems with my burns when my local store upgraded their blank media from 4x to 8x, no longer carrying the 4x. I do not suspect that this is the problem since the bad burns only happen with specific movies."

    Despite what you say, it's hard to believe that your problem is not somehow related to the change in media (brand, format, and/or stated maximum burn speed).

    I'd suggest you try burning at 2X.


    "The things I haven't tried so far, upgrading firmware"

    This too would typically be related to a change in media. If you feel comfortable in performing a firmware update, you might want to go to your burner's official manufacturer's site and download the most recent appropriate update.

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    • nwg
      Left *****
      • Jun 2003
      • 5196

      #3
      Have you always used Memorex -R's. My Sony NS900 does not like them at all and won't load the disc. It comes up as a dirty disc error.

      It does like Memorex +R's.

      Maybe, the 8x discs use a different dye that isn't compatible.

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      • Chewstay
        Junior Member
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2005
        • 2

        #4
        Always used the memorex -r in the past yeah.

        I hit costco and got a stack of tdk.


        The ones that wouldn't burn on the memorex worked fine, but the weird part, did 2 new ones that didn't work on the tdk, then they worked again on the memorex..

        wth

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