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  • Gary D
    Lord of Digital Video
    Lord of Digital Video
    • Dec 2005
    • 2266

    @ biggrumpy



    A crap shoot at best>>> You may get lucky but chances are you will get ****!
    Gary D

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    • biggrumpy
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • May 2006
      • 9

      Thanks

      I figured it was too good to be true

      I have had decent luck with some
      cheaper discs, but have been using
      mostly Sony

      Thanks for all the info

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      • mahoney19
        Junior Member
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2005
        • 43

        What is the general opinion on the TY and the Verb hub printable media? I know that putting labels on yourself has some very mixed results but how do these manufactured hub printables hold up over time?

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        • Steve83
          Bronco Guru
          • May 2006
          • 170

          I've been using inkjet printable & hub-printable white & silver since they became available, and I have no problems with them. Especially after treating them with Patricia Nimock's spray. I've never tried to stick a label on a DVD.

          The only one that ever peeled on me was one I loaned to a friend, and he let his kid get hold of it. I don't know what he did to it, but half the printable surface came clean off the disc in large flakes by the time he gave it back to me (with no explanation or apology). I'm glad it wasn't inside MY player, but like I said: out of ~2000 discs, that's the only one.
          Walk softly and carry a BIG SIX!!!

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          • LT. Columbo
            Demigod of Digital Video
            • Nov 2004
            • 10671

            Originally Posted by Chewy
            I think the verb and the tyg03's are about equal on average, I have seen good scans with good batches of both. Bad scans too.

            @LT,
            open them up some time and compare to the first batch, googling the batch number is informative too.

            if you run into a real good batch of TYG02's, hoard them and use appropriately
            well i just cracked the sucker, this time they are indeed G02's. what number am i looking for? i see nothing on these suckers.

            Windows XP 5.1
            IA32
            WinAspi: -
            ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 4:35:34 PM
            Nero Version: 6.6.0.8 (Nero Express)
            Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105> Version: 1.33 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
            Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
            Drive buffer : 2000kB
            Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
            CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 >Version: 1.33 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
            Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

            === Scsi-Device-Map ===
            DiskPeripheral : WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
            DiskPeripheral : WDC WD400JB-00ETA0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
            CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

            === CDRom-Device-Map ===
            PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 D: CDRom0
            =======================

            AutoRun : 1
            Excluded drive IDs:
            WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
            ShowDrvBufStat : 0
            BUFE : 0
            Physical memory : 767MB (785904kB)
            Free physical memory: 101MB (103828kB)
            Memory in use : 186 %
            Uncached PFiles: 0x0
            Use Inquiry : 1
            Global Bus Type: default (0)
            Check supported media : Disabled (0)

            25.11.2006
            UDF/ISO compilation
            6:55:09 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
            DVD-Video files reallocation started

            6:55:09 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
            DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

            6:55:09 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6172
            Iso document burn settings
            ------------------------------------------
            Determine maximum speed : FALSE
            Simulate : FALSE
            Write : TRUE
            Finalize CD : TRUE
            Multisession : FALSE
            Burning mode : DAO
            Mode : 1
            ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
            Character set : ISO 9660
            Joliet :FALSE
            Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
            Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
            Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

            6:55:09 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
            DVD-Video files sorted

            6:55:09 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
            Reader running

            6:55:09 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
            Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 running

            6:55:09 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
            First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

            6:55:09 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
            First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

            6:55:09 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
            Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

            6:55:10 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
            Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
            Last address to be written: 2245087 (498:54.37, 4384MB)

            6:55:10 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 271
            Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

            6:55:10 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2316
            Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105, Media type: DVD-R
            Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
            Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

            6:55:10 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 433
            >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
            =========================================

            6:55:10 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
            Setup items (after recorder preparation)
            0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
            2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
            original disc pos #0 + 2245088 (2245088) = #2245088/498:54.38
            relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
            -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2245088 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105]
            --------------------------------------------------------------

            6:55:10 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
            Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
            DAO infos:
            ==========
            MCN: ""
            TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
            Tracks 1 to 1:
            1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4597940224, ISRC ""
            DAO layout:
            ===========
            __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
            0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
            0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
            0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
            2245088 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

            6:55:10 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
            Caching of files started

            6:55:10 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
            Cache writing successful.

            6:55:10 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
            Caching of files completed

            6:55:10 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
            Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

            6:55:10 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
            Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

            6:55:10 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2194
            Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

            6:55:10 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21235
            Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

            6:55:10 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2340
            Start write address at LBA 0
            DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

            6:55:10 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
            ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
            Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
            Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
            Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
            Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
            Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
            Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
            End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
            End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
            Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
            Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
            Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
            Media Specific [16..63]:
            00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
            00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
            00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

            6:55:14 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
            18:55:14.830 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105\H1 T0 : Queue again later

            7:09:16 PM #26 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
            <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2245088 (2241E0h), lenght 0 blocks

            7:09:16 PM #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
            all writers idle, stopping conversion

            7:09:16 PM #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2603
            EndDAO: Last written address was 2245087

            7:09:54 PM #29 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
            Burn process completed successfully at 4x (5,540 KB/s)


            Existing drivers:
            File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.01a, size=20368 bytes, created 5/2/2006 7:42:11 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
            File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 8/29/2002 1:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

            Registry Keys:
            HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
            Last edited by LT. Columbo; 26 Nov 2006, 03:37 PM.
            "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
            Columbo moments...
            "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
            "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
            (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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            • Chewy
              Super Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 18971

              congrats LT, looks like an all time high score

              Memory in use : 186 %
              you can google that batch number or scan a burn
              Attached Files
              Last edited by Chewy; 26 Nov 2006, 03:45 PM.

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              • LT. Columbo
                Demigod of Digital Video
                • Nov 2004
                • 10671

                hehehehe i wanted to see how closely i'm being watched, good eye chewster!

                i'll check the for numbers again tomorro.
                "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
                Columbo moments...
                "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
                "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
                (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


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                • Chewy
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 18971

                  767-101 = 666

                  666/767 = .868 or 87%

                  At first I thought Nero Version: 6.6.0.8
                  had finally gotten corrupted on you

                  what was using all that extra ram? must have been nero vision!

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                  • LT. Columbo
                    Demigod of Digital Video
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 10671

                    no, i've never used nero vision. drive was extremely fragmented, had only about 2 GB free on HD and pc still hasn't been re-started in almost 2 months. normal is around 70% for me. everything is a tad slow. this was the burn after that last one

                    Windows XP 5.1
                    IA32
                    WinAspi: -
                    ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 10/26/2004 4:35:34 PM
                    Nero Version: 6.6.0.8 (Nero Express)
                    Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105> Version: 1.33 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
                    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
                    Drive buffer : 2000kB
                    Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
                    CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 >Version: 1.33 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.8
                    Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

                    === Scsi-Device-Map ===
                    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD800JB-00ETA0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
                    DiskPeripheral : WDC WD400JB-00ETA0 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
                    CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On

                    === CDRom-Device-Map ===
                    PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 D: CDRom0
                    =======================

                    AutoRun : 1
                    Excluded drive IDs:
                    WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
                    ShowDrvBufStat : 0
                    BUFE : 0
                    Physical memory : 767MB (785904kB)
                    Free physical memory: 161MB (165032kB)
                    Memory in use : 79 %
                    Uncached PFiles: 0x0
                    Use Inquiry : 1
                    Global Bus Type: default (0)
                    Check supported media : Disabled (0)

                    25.11.2006
                    UDF/ISO compilation
                    7:56:01 PM #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    DVD-Video files reallocation started

                    7:56:02 PM #2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)

                    7:56:02 PM #3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6172
                    Iso document burn settings
                    ------------------------------------------
                    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
                    Simulate : FALSE
                    Write : TRUE
                    Finalize CD : TRUE
                    Multisession : FALSE
                    Burning mode : DAO
                    Mode : 1
                    ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
                    Character set : ISO 9660
                    Joliet :FALSE
                    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
                    Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
                    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

                    7:56:02 PM #4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    DVD-Video files sorted

                    7:56:02 PM #5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
                    Reader running

                    7:56:02 PM #6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
                    Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 running

                    7:56:02 PM #7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
                    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

                    7:56:02 PM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3293
                    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

                    7:56:02 PM #9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3153
                    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

                    7:56:39 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 259
                    Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
                    Last address to be written: 2134543 (474:20.43, 4169MB)

                    7:56:39 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 271
                    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

                    7:56:40 PM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2316
                    Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105, Media type: DVD-RW
                    Disc Manufacturer: RITEKW - 01
                    Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 214

                    7:56:40 PM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 433
                    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
                    =========================================
                    This disc is not empty.
                    (Medium in drive: DVD-RW. Medium required by compilation: DVD-R/RW.)
                    VMS. Disc was erased successfully.
                    Accessing disc...
                    (Medium in drive: DVD-RW. Medium required by compilation: DVD-R/RW.)

                    7:56:40 PM #14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 830
                    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
                    0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
                    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
                    original disc pos #0 + 2134544 (2134544) = #2134544/474:20.44
                    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
                    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2134544 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105]
                    --------------------------------------------------------------

                    7:56:40 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1043
                    Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
                    DAO infos:
                    ==========
                    MCN: ""
                    TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
                    Tracks 1 to 1:
                    1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4371546112, ISRC ""
                    DAO layout:
                    ===========
                    __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
                    0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
                    0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
                    0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
                    2134544 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

                    7:56:40 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    Caching of files started

                    7:56:40 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4040
                    Cache writing successful.

                    7:56:40 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    Caching of files completed

                    7:56:40 PM #19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    Burn process started at 2x (2,770 KB/s)

                    7:56:40 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2609
                    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

                    7:56:40 PM #21 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2194
                    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

                    7:56:40 PM #22 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21235
                    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

                    7:56:40 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2340
                    Start write address at LBA 0
                    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

                    7:56:40 PM #24 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8430
                    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
                    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
                    Book Type: DVD-RW (3), Part Version: 2
                    Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
                    Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
                    Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
                    Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
                    End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: F1DCF h
                    End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
                    Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) exist
                    Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
                    Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
                    Media Specific [16..63]:
                    80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
                    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
                    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

                    7:56:43 PM #25 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
                    19:56:43.408 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105\H1 T0 : Queue again later

                    7:56:49 PM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1287
                    19:56:49.970 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105\H1 T0 : Queue again later

                    8:22:21 PM #27 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 116
                    <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2134544 (209210h), lenght 0 blocks

                    8:22:21 PM #28 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
                    all writers idle, stopping conversion

                    8:22:21 PM #29 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2603
                    EndDAO: Last written address was 2134543

                    8:22:21 PM #30 Phase 181 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    Writing lead-out...

                    8:23:37 PM #31 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
                    Burn process completed successfully at 2x (2,770 KB/s)


                    Existing drivers:
                    File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.01a, size=20368 bytes, created 5/2/2006 7:42:11 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
                    File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 8/29/2002 1:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

                    Registry Keys:
                    HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

                    ====== *** Nero-Burning Rom, History File *** ======
                    Last edited by LT. Columbo; 27 Nov 2006, 03:26 AM.
                    "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
                    Columbo moments...
                    "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
                    "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
                    (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


                    Comment

                    • LT. Columbo
                      Demigod of Digital Video
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 10671

                      Originally Posted by Chewy



                      you can google that batch number or scan a burn
                      gg000223.
                      "One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the 20th Century". Jack The Ripper - 1888
                      Columbo moments...
                      "Double Shock" "The Greenhouse Jungle" "Swan Song" FORUM RULES
                      "You try to contrive a perfect alibi, and it's your perfect alibi that's gonna hang ya."
                      (An Exercise In Fatality, 1974)


                      Comment

                      • Craftmaster
                        Junior Member
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 34

                        Verbatim Double Layer Sale

                        Starting today, Best Buy has Verbatim 20 Pack, DVD+R Double-layer discs, for $29.99 US. That's $1.50 each disc. Sounds good for a chain store.

                        Comment

                        • kuneo
                          Super Member
                          Super Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 241

                          Thanks Craftmaster..........

                          Picked up 2-20pak's today at BB.

                          getting them under $2 each is a sweet deal.

                          K

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                          • daman
                            Yummy!!!
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 684

                            Originally Posted by Craftmaster
                            Verbatim Double Layer Sale

                            Starting today, Best Buy has Verbatim 20 Pack, DVD+R Double-layer discs, for $29.99 US. That's $1.50 each disc. Sounds good for a chain store.
                            But.....if you buy on line they add on tax and shipping,not so good of
                            a deal then.

                            i was going to buy till i went in check out and seen that they charged me
                            tax on top of shipping...
                            She's going down to the devil, down down to 90 degrees.

                            Rock on bro!!!!
                            _________________________________________________
                            Down load DVDFab Decrypter:Here
                            Down load shrink 3.2.0.15: Here
                            DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0: Here
                            Down load VoBblanker: Here
                            Down load ImgBurn: Here
                            Down load RipIt4Me: Here
                            RipIt4Me guide: Here

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                            • BR7
                              He is coming to your little town!
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 2137

                              Originally Posted by daman
                              But.....if you buy on line they add on tax and shipping,not so good of
                              a deal then.

                              i was going to buy till i went in check out and seen that they charged me
                              tax on top of shipping...
                              But you can buy it online and pick it up at your store that would take care of shipping

                              My Blu-ray Collection

                              Comment

                              • daman
                                Yummy!!!
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 684

                                Yea thats true but my store is over an hour away.
                                She's going down to the devil, down down to 90 degrees.

                                Rock on bro!!!!
                                _________________________________________________
                                Down load DVDFab Decrypter:Here
                                Down load shrink 3.2.0.15: Here
                                DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0: Here
                                Down load VoBblanker: Here
                                Down load ImgBurn: Here
                                Down load RipIt4Me: Here
                                RipIt4Me guide: Here

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