Comparison, LG, Lite-On, Samsung.

[Chewy]

looks like the verbatim disks are a little sporadic in quality

[soup]

That's what you have been saying recently isn't it?

[Chewy]

Yes,
the worst verbatim samples are still usually as good as most other disks,
I would rather use sony YudenT02's but ..........

[Mike89]

One additional thing I can say about the two SATA Lite-ons I posted about earlier (sig below) is they are also very fast readers. I can get all the way up to 16x speeds in ripping with DVDD (of course those speeds vary through the rip) where other drives I've had capped out at 8x in reading speeds. Sure makes DVDD get it done a lot quicker.

[soup]

Impressive.

While the following is impressive, I will probably stick with the LG for ripping because I figure a slow read is a good read, but that could be just me. As I was doing these backups anyway, I chose Band of Brothers disc #4. No protection, dvd Shrink can do it on it's own but it would be the same for both drives. I am busy getting the other discs ready for comparison tests @8X, 4X & maybe even 2X but here it is.

LG HL-DT-ST GSA-H10N (TS06):

Lite-On LH-20A1S (9L02):

[Chewy]

I will probably stick with the LG for ripping because I figure a slow read is a good read, but that could be just me.

fast rippers are a dime a dozen

[Mike89]

Well two comments.

The first one "a slow read is a good read". I hope you're not saying "a fast read is a bad read". If it was true while back, I've not seen it to be true now.

The second one, "fast readers are a dime a dozen". I've had a lot of drives and none read like these two I have now and these two are not a dime a dozen, I'd put them up against any drive. I get the impression the feature of speed is being put as a liability by some. Seems the old standard for DVD is, slower is better. While I may have thought that way at one time, I don't now. I think we're getting past that. Technology doesn't stand still.

I'm not going to limit myself to my old thinking that I'm going to stick with a slow drive (because it must be better) when a faster one is just as good (or better) AND faster.

I actually enjoy the SATA feature of these drives also (besides the drives themselves) cause it gives more capability with everything being on it's own channel. 2 HDDs, 3 burners, all on separate channels (and having the ram and horsepower), lots of things I can do now that I couldn't before. Kind of cool.

[Chewy]

time and time again I ask a fast drive to do a job and it drops the ball

sure a fast drive attempts to get a good read but even if it fails one time in ten that's too many

no matter what tricks I try with a fast ripper, there are certain disks it won't do, that's not to say I only use the slow ripper

[Mike89]

Well I'm not convinced that these two drives won't do the job but if I have any of those "1 in 10" deals, I'll post it. Right now I'm pretty pleased with DVDD getting through the disks faster than my other drives could do.

[soup]

Found something interesting out from all of this. While ImgBurn 2.3.0.0 has no problem remembering the booktype for Dvd+R media for my LG & Samsung drives, it is hit & miss for the Lite-On, you set it & it will remember for the next burn but it will not for the burn after that, so I can't take a chance anymore & have to set it each time. These discs still play in my Panasonic DVD-S35 (imagine that) standalone. All burnt @8X & scanned @8X with ImgBurn 2.3.0.0 (the Lite-On burn is one that ended up Dvd+R).

LG HL-DT-ST GSA H10N (JL12): Burn time only, 7.27 minutes,



Lite-On LH-20A1S (9L02): Burn time only, 8.02 minutes,



Samsung TSSTcorp SH-162L (TS07): Burn time only, 7.54 minutes,



BTW all of these examples in this entire thread were verified successfully with ImgBurn.

[jm1647]

@soup I'm pretty sure but not positive that he LiteOn utility booktype135.exe will make the LO remember to booktype to DVD ROM until you change it. It does on my 1693S and my 160P6S

[soup]

Thanks for the info jm1647, I will look in to it.

[Dan]

Soup, have you used the Samsung much for ripping? I find mine is an excellent reader. It has already bailed out my NEC a few times.

I have an old LG too, but this thing seems to read slow but accurate so I have used it on any questionable looking disks and left the easy ones for the NEC.

Great burner/scanner, only downside is being rip locked and the limited read speeds.

[soup]

I haven't used the Samsung much at all for ripping Dan, before I got the Lite-On the Samsung was doing the burning & scanning. At the time I got the lite-On I was looking at the Samsung SH-182D, in fact I am still thinking about adding it but have to build up a few more brownie points with the wife before I run that one by her. I haven't had anything yet (touch wood) that the LG can't do but I might give the Samsung a trial run, maybe for now on the same disc I used for the other trial, just to see how it stacks up.

[Dan]

The SH-S182D is the Samsung burner I have, got it about a month ago.