DVD backup problems towards end of film

[danlevi]

Every time I burn a dvd and playback on my standalone dvd player the film stutters or freezes in the final few chapters. If I watch the final chapters only they are fine. The DVD media i've been using is aone full face printable. Nero CD-DVD reports the media as TYG02 which I understand is Taiyo Yuden so they should be good quality disks.

I've ran Nero CD-DVD speed and get 100% green blocks also I am writing at 4 x speed.

I see from ddlooping's recommendations that I could try different media but as the problem only occurs when the dvd is warm I guess it's a heat problem.

Are there any fixes for an overheated player? (Tatung TDV-2000)

Alternativley could it be because i'm using printable media (i haven't been printing on them only writing film title with a permanant marker), would purchasing unprintable (plain silver) media potentially resolve my problem?

[Chewy]

I don't think those are real TY's, made in japan or china?

real ty printables with tyg02 mid code are pricey in the UK

http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=164

edit: confirmed fakes made in china, at best clones

made in xxxxx will be in chinese

no ty hub code either

[danlevi]

Many thanks for your quick replay, and subsequent investigation.

How can I establish "made in xxxxx"?
The cover has some chinese symbols, but for all I know they maybe Japanese.
Also how can I find the ty hub code? (or more importantly what does that mean?)

[Chewy]

aone makes media in china
ty is made in japan

you got what you paid for

[danlevi]

No worries, i shall find other uses for my budget disks and source some quality disks before further dvd back-ups.

[Chewy]

try in some other players, do you have a burn log, part of the problem may be your burner and it's firmware

I got burned on some TY clone/fakes last year, made in hong kong, they burn ok in my LG burner at 4x, the other 3 burners usually make a coaster

[danlevi]

The disks used to work ok in my PS2 but recently the same problem has started to occur in that. (No probs in my pc dvd.)

Here is the burn log, notification of any problems you identify would be appreciated.


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 16:35:32
Nero Version: 6.6.0.18
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 18
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D>Version: 1.29 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2000kB
Bus Type : via Inquiry data (1) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
Connected to MMC as unknown drive with class-nr : 1
Drive is autodetected - recorder class: Std. MMC recorder
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D>Version: 1.29 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.6.0.18
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD3200KS-00PFB0 nvata Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : SAMSUNG SP2004C nvata Port 2 ID 2 DMA: Off
OtherPeripheral : SI Pseudo Device 0000 Si3114r5 Port 4 ID 31 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D G: CDRom0
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2047MB (2096620kB)
Free physical memory: 1483MB (1519432kB)
Memory in use : 27
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

15.12.2006
Burn DVD Image
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Reader running

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Writer PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D running

23:59:46 #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

23:59:46 #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2286001 (508:00.01, 4464MB)

23:59:46 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

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Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TYG02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

23:59:46 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

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Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, ISO 9660)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286002 (2286002) = #2286002/508:0.2
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286002 blocks [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D]
--------------------------------------------------------------

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Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681732096, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep_______ ___
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
2286002 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

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Caching of files started

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Cache writing successful.

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Caching of files completed

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Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)

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Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

23:59:46 #15 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2536
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

23:59:46 #16 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21717
Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON

23:59:46 #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2691
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

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---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

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[danlevi]

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Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 12:00:00 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

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[Chewy]

wait for a better blank and try again with them before changing anything

[katzdvd]

No worries, i shall find other uses for my budget disks

you may be able to use those "iffy" discs for small burns; I had some CMC junk that froze towards the end of the movie, so instead of tossing them, I burned 30 min. cartoons, etc. on them that only used 1/2 the disc.

They play fine, no freezing as long as I don't burn close to the outer edge. Not sure about long term, tho. Probably won't hold up, but for everyday use is okay.

But, as Chewy stated, best bet would be to get better media.

Garbage in = Garbage out

Just my .02
regards, katz

[danlevi]

Cheers for that, also good idea about shorter file length.

To update on progress:

DVD+R do not work in my DVD player, doh! (Tatung TDV-2000 I know it's old but it has good sound) they do work very well in my PS2, wahoo!

I'll try some good quality DVD-R, the only problem i've got now is it seems that disks aren't sold in singles anymore, (not good ones anyway), the fewest I could get in my local maplin was a 10pack. At least they'll all come in for some use or other sooner or later.

[danlevi]

Got some Verbatim DVD-R mcc03rg20 (£20 for 100) from Maplin in store offer, bargin.
They work perfectly, thanks for your advice.

Strangely my Verbatim DVD+R MCC 004 wont work at all in my DVD player but my freinds RitekG05 DVD+R do. The media guide rates these as 2nd class, is this not strange for my DVD player to play some DVD+R types and not others?

[Chewy]

Strangely my Verbatim DVD+R MCC 004 wont work at all in my DVD player but my freinds RitekG05 DVD+R do.

DVD+R do not work in my DVD player, doh!

he might be bitseting to dvd-rom and burning slower?

g05's have a bad rep

there's a fellow here with one of those pioneers that got firmware to bitsett?

[NightTran]

I think you have to move to 111L in order to bitsetting single layer, which I did ( auto for DL only)

[danlevi]

You're right 111D won't bitsett.
Thanks for the info about flashing 111L firmware, but I cannot dload it from here any suggestions?