Resizing. Bilinear or bicubic actually?

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  • Enchanter
    Old member
    • Feb 2002
    • 5417

    Resizing. Bilinear or bicubic actually?

    Okay. I know from guides and a few others that when shrinking a video (from 720x480 to 480x360, with cropping as well), we should use bilinear. However, I have also read that if you don't use bicubic, the result is a rather blurred video.

    I am currently encoding an animation movie. The result is good with bilinear, but somehow it looks even sharper with bicubic. Can you all give me your comments on this? I wonder if this is just me or if bicubic really shouldn't be used for shrinking videos.
  • benderman
    Digital Video Specialist
    Digital Video Specialist
    • Nov 2001
    • 770

    #2
    Bilinear is for shrinking, bicubic is for enlarging. Maybe bicubic also works well for shrinking, but the smoothing effect of the bilinear resizing is perfect for divX-compression. Smooth video is compressed better and with less artifacts.
    don't trust in guides

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    • Enchanter
      Old member
      • Feb 2002
      • 5417

      #3
      So would you say that, if I used bicubic and hence get less smoothing, I would end up with a file that is bigger than if I used bilinear? Or will the resultant file be more difficult to play with (ie. requires more CPU power)?

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      • benderman
        Digital Video Specialist
        Digital Video Specialist
        • Nov 2001
        • 770

        #4
        Smoother video will reduce sharp edges and so the video can be compressed better. Better means smaller filesize and/or smoother playback with less details. The effect is minimal, if you want to experiment use a smoothing-filter like in VirtualDUB.
        don't trust in guides

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        • UncasMS
          Super Moderator
          • Nov 2001
          • 9047

          #5
          two more things to keep in mind:

          1. if you resize only ONE side (height or width) bilinear is fine.
          for resizing both, x and y better use bicubic.

          2. bilinear smoothes und thus blurs your picture. if you want best sharpness: again use bicubic!
          Last edited by UncasMS; 23 Feb 2002, 02:02 PM.

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          • Enchanter
            Old member
            • Feb 2002
            • 5417

            #6
            Thanks for the input.

            One last question though. How much more CPU power will be required to run a file resized by bicubic, compared to that by bilinear? Is it near negligible?

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            • benderman
              Digital Video Specialist
              Digital Video Specialist
              • Nov 2001
              • 770

              #7
              @UncasMS: I can't agree with you. Every resizing-filter works better if you only resize one side, no matter if bicubic or bilinear. The only difference is that bicubic uses an algorithm that produces sharper edges so that it is much better for enlarging pictures. If you shrink a picture bilinear is the better choice, simply because it is faster and produces nearly the same result.
              don't trust in guides

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              • can2day
                Junior Member
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2002
                • 5

                #8
                I switched from using bicubic to bilinear filtering in Flask and the rips I have made since do look noticably blurrier. Eventually, I switched back to bicubic.

                IMHO, if you're going for quality, stick with bicubic. That said, my rips always came in undersize by about 10-20% of what I had calculated.

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                • UncasMS
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 9047

                  #9
                  since this thread is more than 13 month old and things have changed a little, my one and only resizer for month now is:

                  LANCZOS

                  excellent sharpness and still less visible artefacts than sharp bicubic

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                  • Enchanter
                    Old member
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 5417

                    #10
                    This is one old thread I never expected to see again!

                    That said, I am with Uncas in preferring lanczos over any other types of resizers.

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                    • UncasMS
                      Super Moderator
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 9047

                      #11
                      This is one old thread I never expected to see again!
                      true

                      i came across this old thread by accident

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                      • t3ch
                        H4x0r of Gibsons
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 113

                        #12
                        rofl....

                        I was like what the hell...
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