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  • rosecloud
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2002
    • 28

    A newbie still needs advice

    Fanx for repliies i`ve received till now

    i`m still finding things way 2 slow

    i just upgraded to an Athlon 1.6Ghz

    (But since the shop was out of DDR ram)

    i`m still using my 196 of SDR ram

    (This may be my bottleneck?????)

    i used AVI 2 CD for a 45 minute flick

    (655 Mb). This took 8 hours & 45 min

    way too long to endure , this is only disc 1

    of a 2 disc flick

    In my last pot , B-4 upgrade , i used TMPGenc

    & thought i`d try AVI 2 CD

    Abdul repled he was using 1.7 Ghz , with 256 Mb ram ,

    & he got 1 to 1 transfers , 1 hour flick = 1 hour encode

    time ( i assume he was usind DDR ram ) , & when i install DDR

    i`ll get very similar results.But i don`t want to blindly toss

    $ away if this won`t greatly improve my success

    So wise members , Plz advise me on this

    TIA -
  • 1 Smelly Fish
    Super Member
    Super Member
    • Nov 2001
    • 274

    #2
    It is still taking you how long to convert 1 disc ??????? No WAY !!!!!! not with that speed processor, i only have a Athlon 600 and i can convert a a standard Divx movie to MPEG using TMPGEnc at the very slowest setting and it takes me about 6-7 hours roughly. So i recon somethings not right there. I also only had 128 meg of ram, upped it to 256, it made a slight difference, upped it again and hardly made a difference. What exactly are you trying to do cause i cant really understand your post. And have missed your previous ones. BUt from what i can understand using a 1.6 gig Athlon which is over 2x's as fast as mine to convert anything and it taking 2x's as long as me, just doesnt add up

    Are yous shutting down everything else in the back ground and leaving your PC alone while it converts ?

    Cheers

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    • rosecloud
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2002
      • 28

      #3
      Hi

      fanx for your reply 1 smelly fish

      Wot i`m trying to do is , to make VCD`s

      out of AVI`s , to Mpg to VCD

      Well i used AVI 2 Cd this time

      Maybe that`s the difference ????

      When i get another flick i`ll try

      TMPGenc(Any very specific settings

      you`d suggest??????) , cause i don`t

      understand any of them , this is my 1st

      try @ this , i`ve been a strict Mp3 man for years

      TMPGenc is to be used to convert from AVI ? to Mpg to burn as

      VCD??????

      in Ie Nero

      There are So many settings to be concerned with in TMPGenc.

      Under Video tab Mpg 1 or 2 ???? & size , aspect ratio , i can even

      change

      frame rate(Would i ever want to do this ????) & the settings

      window

      goes on & on

      i`d really hate to fudge a good quality flick , i`d guess around

      500 to 700 mB FOR A 1 HOUR FLICK ???????

      Mb , per 1 hour of flick time is the only acceptable quality.But

      even when i have this

      quality , i can fudge it up , & get crap quality if i don`t do the

      TMPG settings correct ?????

      Techno mentioned using the template in TMPGenc , i`m not even

      sure how to load this , & under wot circumstances to use it(Why?)


      i might as well ask a few other questions while i`m here

      Just how many programs to i need to reach an end goal

      of a VCD ?(Only nero if i have the VCD or Mpg i do know this)

      A few odd things happen sometimes with TMPGenc , when i

      try & do a file i downloaded as AVI , i`ll get an unsupported

      error , sometimes if i decompress it in AVI 2 VCD and then

      it will work...

      Here`s some odd stuff in Nero.

      i did a flick in Nero last night , that Nero said wasn`t Valid ,it said

      there was no audio & no Video Yet i chanced it

      , & it burned properly to a workable VCD

      & In Nero when some are found invalid video stream , should i


      usethe reencode option , or turn off standard compliance &

      continue ?

      Thank you Very Much -

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      • 1 Smelly Fish
        Super Member
        Super Member
        • Nov 2001
        • 274

        #4
        Hi rosecloud, you seem awefully stressed But dont be, you will get there it takes time, patience and persistance and allot of trial and error when you first start out. I think its best if i give you a site addy that explains exactly step by step the process, the programs and the settings that you need to achive what you want to do. Have a good read of the information here, take it step by step and see how you go. No doubt there will be questions realting to this but allot what your asking is (no offence) general information and not a specific problem .
        So have a read and see how you go and let us know if any problems arise



        Cheers and Good Luck

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        • Kiwibloke
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2002
          • 17

          #5
          Hello Rosecloud

          I know what your going through. They should install a new section called "User Support Group". I am a newbie, and my best effort so far has been a VCD of The Shipping News, that was best watched without my glasses, know what I mean. My partner waited with baited breathe for 6 days to watch her genius man present her with a movie she would have gladly paid 10.50 to see, and in the end I had to take her to the movies to watch it.

          However, I think you would benifit from VirtualDub, it lets you change frames rates, set picture and sound filters, and lets you reconvert your file to proper AVI. And its not that hard to use. From there you can use TMGPnc to convert it to MPEG-1, without any changes. From there burn to disk using nero 5.5.

          Sounds easy but bare in mind I havent had a lot of success.

          People, If i'm sending this guy down the wrong path, please message us both and put us right.

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          • 1 Smelly Fish
            Super Member
            Super Member
            • Nov 2001
            • 274

            #6
            Hi there Kiwibloke, dont mention the cricket lol's
            Anyway, just thought i'd add that quality of a MPEG 1 or MPEG 2 will not be improved upon by converting from Divx. If anything there is a very slight loss in quality that personally is un-noticable but others may disagree. So if the origianal movie is a poor quality cam job or a telesync there is nothing that will make it "DVD" quality as you probably know . What i often do is check the quality of the DIVX files and if they are worth converting to VCD or SVCD i do, if not i toss it.

            Cheers

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            • Kiwibloke
              Junior Member
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2002
              • 17

              #7
              What Cricket

              Good advice, man I have wasted a hell of lot of time trying to create a VCD that doesnt look good.

              But I downloaded the Shipping News off Morpheous, it looked great on my computer, as a matter of fact it looked like a pro job. It even had warnings throughout the movie stating that it belonged to Miramax and that it was for there screening only (hope i'm allowed to say that).

              Yet when I got it to VCD disk the picture was crap, sound was good, but picture was crap. I dont think it was the file, i think it was something i did, or didnt do.

              P.S what do you reckon 4 in a row tonight?

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              • 1 Smelly Fish
                Super Member
                Super Member
                • Nov 2001
                • 274

                #8
                The way the Aussie's are playing i think the local club here could get em a run for their money..
                Did you use TMPGEnc to convert ? and did you choose the Slowest setting to convert, as default it will do it at "normal" so if you missed that it could perhaps explain the high loss in quality. Also, how does the converted MPEG look on the PC ? There is a slight loss in pic quality from PC to TV also, but not as much as i feel you have got.

                Cheers mate

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                • Kiwibloke
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 17

                  #9
                  I used VD to change it to an AVI file, even though i though it was one, i then also changed the fps rate from 12.500fps to 25.000fps as someone else told me. While there i tweaked some filters, Smoothness, brightness, etc. Everytime i previewed it though, and it looked better.

                  I then used TMPGnc to convert the new file to MPEG. But I didnt slow it down, it must have been running fast. The film looked like it had only been convert on every 10th frame.

                  In NZ we are very worried about playing you guys tonight. The Africa's really upset us on Sunday, and all the talk here is that we wont qualify for the finals. I have faith though. Astle sould knock a tonne.

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                  • 1 Smelly Fish
                    Super Member
                    Super Member
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 274

                    #10
                    Depending on how keen you are to fiddle and find the source of the loss in quality, I would take the original Divx file, use V Dub to correct the fps to 25 as you did, check out the quality on the PC to make sure its the same as the orininal file, than load that into TMPGEnc and convert say 5 minutes of it (at Very Slow), say just untill Kevin Spacy meets up with Kate Blanchet and are at the Cafe. Compair it than, if its ok than perhaps try to tweek quality in V Dub.

                    I dont like your chances tonight mate, I think its ganna be close, but the Aussies may have that edge over the N.Z.ers........ embarasment of loosing....lol's
                    Cheers

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                    • dmlove
                      Junior Member
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 34

                      #11
                      I'm using TMPGenc to convert home digital videos from avi to mpeg. Are you saying I'd get better quality VCD if I slow down the conversion rate?
                      dm love

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                      • 1 Smelly Fish
                        Super Member
                        Super Member
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 274

                        #12
                        Absolutely YES
                        You will get much better quality MPEG files if you slow down the rate of conversion.


                        Cheers

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                        • dmlove
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 34

                          #13
                          I tried it and you are absolutely right!
                          dm love

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                          • 1 Smelly Fish
                            Super Member
                            Super Member
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 274

                            #14
                            Glad to hear it mate
                            Happy converting

                            Cheers

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                            • rosecloud
                              Junior Member
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 28

                              #15
                              Fanx 1 smellyfish & all others for all help.

                              Hi

                              Fanx to all

                              i`m stilll frustrated as hell , but refusing to surrender

                              Hahahahaha A special cheers to Kwikibloke

                              Good to hear i`m not all alone in this boat....

                              Yes 1 smellyfish i can unzip (Which program

                              do you speak of ???)

                              i sent you an email , but got a message saying i couldn`t

                              do that Hmmmm

                              i hope you get this

                              notdeadyet69@hotmail.com

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