Decypher Nero Speed DVD Media Tests?

[katzdvd]

Hi! After having some prob. w/ my dvd player reading burned discs, (playback would freeze, & then resume) I decided to use the Nero CD Test pgm. Results of one disc are posted below; However, I do not clearly understand the test results! I read/reread the help files in Nero, & they do not seem to correspond with the program... (please view link for screenshot)

http://forum.videohelp.com/images/guides/p1519769/birds%20test.jpg

General Information
Drive: DVDRW IDE1008
Firmware: 0055
Disc: DVD+R (MCC 004)
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 8659
Average: 4593.42
Total: 15015904
PI failures
Maximum: 8603
Average: 383.96
Total: 1255162
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 9:36
Number of samples: 3269
Average scanning interval: 42.08 ECC
Glitches removed: 3


Any help is greatly appreciated for this newbie!!!

Thanks!!!

[Zero G]

Wookies have been know to create some damn good threads.

[Chewy]

well we can get right to it, your firmware is way old,

http://www.iomagic.com/Firmware/FirmwareDownload.html

ur version is 0055, they are up to 0060

DVDRW IDE1008

the firmware tell the drive how to burn the media

I hope that fixes it at least a little, that scan is horrible, but those BTC
drives may not scan good. I started a thread in blank media and burning,
refer there for how to do a transfer test, that graph will show us what's
actually going on after you do the firmware and burn another disk,

[katzdvd]

Hey guys!

Thanks for the quick replies! In regards to the firmware update...I was checking into that for the last week or so, & it seems that my drive, which is a MicroAdvantage # 8DVDRW-B13; that the co. is no longer in bus., & the firmware updates that I was reading about - I wasn't sure if it would be correct for my burner or not.



I did come across a site that had info. pertaining to my drive, which recommend the "flash107.zip" update for my particular model... What do you guys think? Have you had any experience w/ those drives?

Again, thanks for the help! I greatly appreciate it, as I am getting tired of wasting discs, & not really being able to come to the solution of the problem on my own...

"Thank You"

[locoeng]

it seems that my drive, which is a MicroAdvantage # 8DVDRW-B13

Your drive is actually a BTC drive...that is what is listed in the log that you provided. It must be a rebadge. Chewy gave you the correct link to the firmware that you need.

But here is one from rpc1: http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_result.php?kaj=1&isces

[Chewy]

your firmware number is 00055, a 107 will not be for your drive.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=8765

is your burner

http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1727

[katzdvd]

Hi,

Well, I have updated the firmware to Rev. 0060: The update "hung" about 3/4 of the way thru the process. I let the pc sit for prob. 20 min. or so, & the update still hadn't completed, (never reached a "finished" screen) so at that point I rebooted.

I have checked the Rev. 0060 in DVD Infopro - it shows the update information...
The drive seems to play my CD's & a DVD movie okay, so I am guessing that all went well. Have any of you experienced the same issue when flashing a drive? I will burn a DVD later today & post the results (screenshot).

Also, where can I find info. on how to "read" the results of the test? The manual that I dwnloaded for Nero Speed doesn't really give the proper info. on how to understand the test results; so, while I can churn out cool looking result graphs, I have no idea what they really mean!


Anyway, thanks to Chewy, Zero G, & locoeng for the help you have givin' me thus far!

I would have flashed the drive w/ the wrong update if it weren't for you guys! And, I realize now that this drive isn't very high on the quality scale, but it has to do for me for a short while yet...

[Chewy]

The update "hung" about 3/4 of the way thru the process

bad sign, we should have told you to go the safe route, if everythings fine then don't worry, but if you are still getting bad burns with good media then you might want to reflash. To be safe, boot into safe mode with windows,
this keeps funky ide drivers from being loaded as well as a host of other programs.

[katzdvd]

Burn Results After Firmware Update...

Hi! Test results are as follows;

General Information
Drive: DVDRW IDE1008
Firmware: 0060
Disc: DVD+R (MCC 004)
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 228
Average: 54.44
Total: 165325
PI failures
Maximum: 20
Average: 0.10
Total: 301
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 9:07
Number of samples: 3037
Average scanning interval: 42.06 ECC
Glitches removed: 2

[Chewy]

try attaching a transfer test graph
figures look better

[katzdvd]

Updated Scan...

Attached is graph - don't know why I'm having such trouble attaching these scan pics!

http://forum.videohelp.com/images/guides/p1520341/housetest2nd.jpg

looks like the firmware update took, even tho it "froze" during the process...

[Chewy]

looks like the firmware update took

go into benchmark cdspeed, forget disk quality scan with that drive, the interval is way too high

Average scanning interval: 42.06 ECC

run test / transfer rate

that's the graph that will tell us if your burner is burning good disks

[katzdvd]

Hi Chewy,

Ok, test result is as follows:

also did test w/ dvdinfo...

http://forum.videohelp.com/images/guides/p1520423/transfertestdvdinfo.jpg

[Chewy]

Your burner read that disk in 9 min smooth as glass, bottom line, that's a good burn, if you have any problem with playabilty it's the player, not the blanks or burner. That burn would probably score a 90 at least on a good scanner.

[katzdvd]

DVD Player problems?

Hey Chewey,

Read your last post in regards to the results of the burn test. You mentioned

if you have any problem with playabilty it's the player

I THOUGHT maybe that was my problem, too - so, a couple weeks ago, I purchased a New Sony that is supposed to play back everything, ('cept DIVX)

& it gave me the same results as 3 other players that I have tried. That's why I have been looking at the media or burner as the culprit. The one batch of media I was using was HP (CMC), & that seemed to be the worst, but I had prob. w/ Verbatim (MCC) Media as well, although not as much.

I think it may be time to buy some of the "hi-quality" media that I have been reading about online...

...and, I do want to purchase one of the better burners - I know that if I start w/ known quality my chances of completing the task successfully will improve greatly.

At any rate, I appreciate the time you (& others) take in helping me to understand the process better - I have been viewing your other threads/posts, & I can see that you definantly "know your stuff"!

I will keep watching your posts! XD

Again, Thanks!!!