Some questions about encoding times

[Nictoe]

I've decided that my first rebuilder movie would be a TV episode. However, things began to look 'ominous' when I noticed that the 1st VTS segment...took about an hour to encode the 44 mb M2V. After about 4 hours into Phase II encoding, the overall progress bar... was still only 3% complete. Now there are 36 such VTS segments in the movie, so you go figure the math.

I don't know what to expect when it comes to rebuilding a 'regular movie' However, I do know that DVD Lab only takes about a half an hour to encode a typical 2 hour movie, and about the same time for multiplexing.

For anyone curious: I'm running an HP p4 1.6 pc with 1 gig memory and Windows XP SP2. I'm also running ProCoder 2, with the recommended guide settings.

[Taelon]

Was there a question in there?

[Nictoe]

Was there a question in there?

.....SURE....Just how long does it take YOU to prepare,encode,rebuild and backup a typical 2hr TV episode movie???

p.s. I could also use some helpful suggestions,tips or tweaks to SPEED UP the process,because you at least have to admit, that it is kind of ODD that it would take almost 2 days just to encode in Phase II.

....thanks anyways.

[UncasMS]

hmm, that's extremely slow, you're right

keepin in mind that procoder2 is the slowest encoder one could go for (especially when using mastering quality, which i always do) it will of course take a couple of hours, but 4hrs for ~3-4% is out of this world

before building my first athlon64 machine last year i used an amd xp 2000+ for the conversions i
i have never jotted down encoding times but your example would lead to a conversion time of a ~WEEK and thus there must be something severely wrong

- did you use any filtering?

- where does the material come from?

- is your pc working normally apart from converting with procoder2?
did you try to doublecheck with any benchmarks?

- is dma set correctly, and what about harddrive space left for the conversion + swap file etc?

- any background tasks that might have interfered?
antivirus, defrag,...

- can you try something like HC ENC for a test set to FAST mode in order to see how fast it might work and maybe use different source material for a change as well?

[blutach]

I use Procoder 2 normally and can get through a 2 hour movie overnight. I was also gunna say check your DMA Nictoe.

Regards

[Nictoe]

What a bummer. I just WIPED OUT 10 hours of CCE encoding by hitting the 'backup' button again, thinking that it would create the required AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders for burning.

....guess that's what happens when you've been using DVD Shrink for so long.

[UncasMS]

in other words cce took 10hrs for the job?

not very fast but on the other hand you're using an 1.6ghz cpu

btw: hitting REBUILD would have been the better choice ^_~
why did you not use ONE click method?

[Nictoe]

Actually it did create the audio and video folders. Now I have to figure out, how to burn it with Nero. Is there any good way of doing this next step ???

[UncasMS]

start nero and choose DVD VIDEO

this will automatically create audio_ts and video_ts subfolders

drag the content of the rebuilder-created video_ts subfolder into the one that nero creates and dont burn too fast

go for half your max speed

[Nictoe]

I just found out, that it was a 4 hour movie being processed. In any event,I have to admit that after using rebuilder pro with 2 pass CCE encoding, I really can't notice that much difference in video quality as compared to DVD Shrink. Then again, you can't expect miracles when you have a 52% DVD compression to begin with. Still I wonder why the scripts couldn't at least use MP2 audio to reduce compression even further. As for ProCoder 2, having a hyperthreaded multi-proccessor system, would be the way to go. But of course, I'm waiting for the Blu-ray systems to come out.

[jmet]

"Now I have to figure out, how to burn it with Nero. Is there any good way of doing this next step ???"

Please go here for the tutorial I made on how to do that: http://forum.digital-digest.com/show...453#post221453

[jdobbs]

I just found out, that it was a 4 hour movie being processed. In any event,I have to admit that after using rebuilder pro with 2 pass CCE encoding, I really can't notice that much difference in video quality as compared to DVD Shrink. Then again, you can't expect miracles when you have a 52% DVD compression to begin with. Still I wonder why the scripts couldn't at least use MP2 audio to reduce compression even further. As for ProCoder 2, having a hyperthreaded multi-proccessor system, would be the way to go. But of course, I'm waiting for the Blu-ray systems to come out.

I have to say that I have doubts about this... if you are doing four hours of encoding and can't tell the difference between Rebuilder and Shrink you have something set wrong. The difference should be enormous.

1. How good is the original?
2. Is it a series disc? If so, do you have "Steal Space" enabled (you shouldn't)

MP2 audio is actually less efficient than AC3.

[UncasMS]

maybe the reason is this:

Maybe thats why I can't see the difference. Guess on a 20" everything looks the same

nictoe

[jdobbs]

I didn't notice that... that could be it, but I would have thought that a transcoder would be unwatchable even on a small monitor at 4 hours. Pixelation city. Of course if it is using an RF or composite connection into to the TV, the limitation of the connection is only a little over 300 lines of horizontal resolution... and that can mask a lot of problems.

No matter how you slice it, 4 hours is hard to do on a DVD-5 if it has any action or challenging video in it at all... but DVD Rebuilder should be able to do it a lot better than any non-CCE method.

[UncasMS]

but DVD Rebuilder should be able to do it a lot better than any non-CCE method

no objection, your honour
*gg*