commercial encoders

[sonic_emperor]

which is better...and more important faster?

procoder or cce...

[UncasMS]

speed doesnt matter to me

i consider procoder better
cce is faster though

[techreactor]

Amongst all commercial/free encoders

HC Encoder for high bitrates

AutoQmatEnc for low bitrates

Both are tough to beat on quality and performance value.

[sonic_emperor]

i thought its sure that commercial are better chice...
can u define high/low bitrate,how can i check that in dvdrb?

[UncasMS]

concerning freeware vs commercial encoders:
confer the comparisons i have posted over the month in this rebuilder forum

cce results with low bitrates dont look good at all


in rb you could use the prepare phase and then see the bitrates which will be used later on

cce is the fastest - true
but with bitrates below ~3500kbps the results may look inferior compared to for example procoder

[Furiousg]

The bitrate will depend on how much compression a certain title will need to fit on your desired media. If you have a 3 hour movie at 4.3GB, compared to a 2 hour movie at 4.3GB, the 3 hour movie will still use the same total amount of information, but it will be spread a little "thinner" over the playtime of the film, hence the lower bitrate.

[sonic_emperor]

thats good news...i got procoder....so should i use it for all,or could i for ex. use it at hight bitrts,and AutoQmatEnc for low bitrates?would that be reasonable?

where can i find a guide how to configure procoder(if theres anithing as such,i'm downloading quicktime at the moment as i cant really open procoder app without qt6 or higher...

[sonic_emperor]

The bitrate will depend on how much compression a certain title will need to fit on your desired media. If you have a 3 hour movie at 4.3GB, compared to a 2 hour movie at 4.3GB, the 3 hour movie will still use the same total amount of information, but it will be spread a little "thinner" over the playtime of the film, hence the lower bitrate.

i knew that....i always back up just the movie,without extras and menu,and additiona languages(audio & subtitles)...i think thats the good way to save some bitrate,and i get nervous when i have to loose 10 mins just to set up the movie to what i want...
thats why i got dvdrb pro...it was kind of annoying to prepare each movie with shrink,and than "rebuild" it

[UncasMS]

there is not much to do with procoder in order to run it

c.f. my quickstart guide; you will need to address eclpro in rebuilder's setup

use procoder for most if not all encodings and in case you want to save some time, use hc or cce with higher bitrates
(like i said: i'd use cce only for more than 3500kbps)

[Furiousg]

I think I prefer HC to CCE. The time difference is minimal, but the results seem a lot cleaner with HC. Which is definately impressive for a free encoder
As far as settings with Procoder, I believe menu-wise there is only the speed/quality settings. I do most of my encodes overnight, so speed really isn't an issue for myself.

[sonic_emperor]

i do the same,my "hc time" was round 520mins encoding+round 15-20mins for other jobs...its nice that procoder works with all....i wasnt even considering cce,i must admit...

[blutach]

Procoder's (v2) expensive, but it reigns supreme in my book. It just does so damn much.

HC is very good. I'll offend some folks here (and at doom9), but CCE ain't worth paying $$$ for IMHO.

Regards