Going nuts with Subtitles

[cdechery]

First of all, I'm new to this... never done it before, but I think I done it all right and I simply don't understand what is wrong.

I downloaded the movie Monsters Inc. It's fine... it has a little intro (not just the movie) which kinda gets in the way of syncronizing the subtitles.
The movie is in 23.967 FPS.

I downloaded the subtitles (from divxsubtitles.net) in MicroDVD (.sub) format (25 FPS).

Right away I realized it was totally out of sync because of the intro thing... so I found the correct "start point" and used SubAdjust to resync it. It worked fine.

The source .sub is in 25FPS, does the target one need to be in 23 or 25 too? Or even better, does the subtitles file NEED to be at the same framerate as the movie?

I tried that too, converted the .sub to 23.967 FPS.

The problem IS: it starts perfectly synched... but as time passes the synch gets worse, by 20min of movie it's the subs are like 2mins out of synch.

I tried using both TextSub and VirtuablDub's subtitler plugin. Same result.

In SubSync it shows the exact same "problem".

What am I doing wrong? Maybe the original .sub file? I tried a different one (.SSA) found in another site.. same problem.

[sneglen]

The problem is complicatet, because you have the movie that is running at 25FPS and a subtitle file that is running at 23,97FPS.

MicroDVD subtitles files works by frames, it shows what frame to display the text on and what frame to hide them again.

You of course need the last frrames to get it to work with the 23,97FPS movie

the best way to do yhis is by using the built in subtitle converter in MicroDVD namely: "SubConvert" but you can't convert MicroDVD subtitle files, you need them in another format like SubRip or perhaps the SSA format, but I haven't tried that.

But you open SubConvert and choose a new FPS for the movie, and triy it out if it doesn't fit try lowering or "highering" (Don't know the right word) until, it fits. It can be quiet boring, but it's great when you get it to work (Believe me I have done it alot of times)

Remember which FPS you get to it should work if you need to do the same hing with another subtitle and another movie.

hope it works.