strange display

[robbiehales]

Hi im very new to this but been reading through the posts to pick up bits and bobs to help me, ive burnt a VCD from an AVI i downloaded so i can play it on my stand alone DVD player. the problem is when i play it on my dvd player the picture is upside down and back to front !! ive asked around with people i know and none of them have a clue why this is, any one got any idea's?? and how do i fix it?

[robbiehales]

Oh yeah Im using Nero 5.5.10.0

[Radio_Edit]

upside down

ive never heard of that in my whole life, wish i could offer something but this is way out of my area. i will be watching this post though. interested in learning about it. sorry

[setarip]

It seems to be a problem inherent in using NERO to both convert and burn VCDs. Try the following instead to create a VCD:

1) Load .AVI file into TMPGEnc
2) Set to "System Video and Audio" (lower right side)
3) Click on "Setting" radio button
4) Click on "System" tab, change mode to "MPEG1-VideoCD" (from default of "MPEG1")
5) Click on "Advanced" tab, change "Video arrange method" to "Center (Custom Size"), change dimensions to 352x288 or 352x240
6) Change "Source aspect ratio" to either "4:3 525 line (NTSC 704x480)", "4:3 525 line (NTSC)", or "16:9 525 line (NTSC)" - If you're in the PAL world choose either of the two similar PAL settings instead
7) Under the "Video" tab, change the dimensions to 352x288 or 352x240 (Note: "Video" tab mode of "MPEG1" is okay) - set "Motion Search Precision" to "Normal Quality". Change the "Aspect Ratio" to match, as closely as possible, the "Source Aspect Ratio" you set under the "Advanced" tab.
8) Change "Rate Control Mode" to "Automatic VBR (CQ_VBR)"
9) Under the "Audio" tab, set to 44,100 224Kbps
10) Press "Start"

Note that if your video runs longer than 60 minutes, you'll have to subsequently split your VCD-MPG file in two. This too can be easily and precisely accomplished using TMPGEnc. Under the "Files" dropdown menu, click on "MPEG Tools" and select the "Merge & Cut" tab. Once again, make sure to change the mode to "MPEG1-Video CD". Load your file and enter a new (.MPG) name in the "Output file" box. Then doubleclick on the ORIGINAL file's name in the window, which will bring you to the cutting area. Select your desired start and end points for the first half, click on "Okay" which will bring you back to the first window and generate (in a sequence of three automated steps) the first new file. To create the second new file, repeat the steps starting with "Then doubleclick on the ORIGINAL..." (be extra patient with the second half, as the program has to do more seeking to establish the beginning of the new file).

Use a burning program, such as NERO to burn your CD-R or R/W CD as a VCD (DON'T ask NERO to format the file as a VCD, since you've already accomplished this!)

[robbiehales]

i tryed what you said i loaded part 1 of the avi (the mvie was in 2 parts) the MPG cam out at over a gig in size so i had to chop it using TMPGEnc is there any way of doing it so the file size is smaller so i dont end up with 4 cd's for one movie ??

[robbiehales]

I just burnt it and tryed to play it but no sound what do i do now?? thanx for the help i really appreciate it

[gd_nimrod]

Is there sound in the .mpg file that you converted?

[robbiehales]

i got the sound sorted is there any way to make the file sizes smaller so i can fit it onto 2 disc's?? at the moment i have the film in 2 halfs both .AVI when i convert them to .MPG the file size for each half goes up to over a gig so i have to split the film into 4 and use 4 discs

[gd_nimrod]

Originally posted by robbiehales
is there any way to make the file sizes smaller so i can fit it onto 2 disc's?? at the moment i have the film in 2 halfs both .AVI when i convert them to .MPG the file size for each half goes up to over a gig so i have to split the film into 4 and use 4 discs

Find a "Bitrate Calculator" that can let you set the video bitrate of the movie so that each part will fit on 1cd (or how you want it to). remember however that the quality will also go down, I don't reccomend putting more than 60mins of video on 1cd-r if its going to be an svcd.

[gd_nimrod]

Found a bitrate calculator here. If you don't trust the calculator, in TMPGenc before conversion it lets you know how big the output .mpg is going to be.

[setarip]

"the MPG cam out at over a gig in size so i had to chop it"

VCDs are based on running time (just like audio CDs), NOT on filesize. You could, theoretically, burn up to 80 minutes of compliant VCD video on one 700Meg/80Minute CD-R

Just curious, what's the combined running time of the two .AVIs that comprise your video?

[robbiehales]

combined time is just over 2 hours, the first cd is just under an hour by second !! original AVI size is 718,692 Kb once its been through TMPGRnc to convert to MPG the file size is 998,138KB. I orignaly just tryed to convert the AVI to MPG and didnt realise you had to have the sound as a seperate file, once i had read up on that I used virtual dub to save the wav file and put this in the audio path in TMPGRnc the wav file size is 96,399Kb. also when i run nero and drag and drop the MPG file into the files window a message comes up that says "The following problems where found - invalid video stream: 23:976 frames/second, 352 x 288" then the options to ignore standard compliance and continue or to re-encode the video file, if i choose to re-encode i get my original problem of the picturre being upside down and back to front if i ignore it the file size is to big for the CD-R. im using 80min/700Mb CD-R's.

cheers for the help

[setarip]

What you've described about filesize (and probably INDICATED running time) doesn't sound correct.

1) Did you remember set the dimensions to 352x240 (352x288 for PAL) under BOTH the "Video" and "Advanced" tabs of TMPGEnc?

2) Did you remember to set the mode to "MPEG1-VideoCD" (NOT "MPEG2-SuperVideoCD") under the "System" tab?

[robbiehales]

yeah set it up exactley how you described in your earleir post im in the UK so set it up for pal

[robbiehales]

also just noticed that the sound has glitches in it !! every 5 sec it sounds like it has another channel kicking in you can hear the dialog/music etc but there is an anoying sound over the top every 5 seconds hmmmmmm any ideas on that aswell?? lol