MP3 audio on VCD

[JAG609]

I use Roxio Easy CD Creator 5.0 Platinum for my VCD burning. I start with a DivX file my friends gives me. I have the AVI2VCD software, however it won't work unless i use the bundled audio decompressor. Is there a certain program that will encode the divx to VCD and leave the MP3 audio alone. But not having access to a MP3 dvd player yet, i have no idea if it will work. Any help would be appreciated. thanx.

-JAG609

[johnbmx4christ]

i hope this helps..i aint no pro...as far as i understand,it has to uncompress the mp3 file and encode it into a wav. vcd format is a stereo audio wav file so whenever you play a vcd on ANY dvd player the sound cant be an mp3.you really dont want it anyway cause mp3 IS a compressed file, which means it wont sound as good.

[JAG609]

John, i was wanting to do this because VCDs take multiple discs. If i have mp3 audio instead of wave, the size would cut down a lot, making some movies that take like 40 megs of the last part of the movie on another disc could be eliminated. CD-RW are cheap, but they do add up. I'm sure i'd get an error message from the burning software, but it still should work if the dvd player has p3 capabilities. i already have an error on mine, "system clock referance", but i bypass it, burn it....it works fine.
-thanx

[Simon T]

The audio format of VCD's is NOT wav. It's a 224 kbps MP2-format. When you count it out. The audio of a 2h movie takes about 200 Megabytes. IF you can use MP3 for your movie, not alll players will take it (some maybe) and it gives you not much space adventage.
You can better size down the bitrate of audio to save some space.

[JAG609]

thanks simon.

i'll try 128 or 96 on the audio. what about scaling down the audio like that, THEN encoding to MP3... would that work? I am choosing my dvd player to buy based on what i can do as far as authoring--i don't want to pay for what i won't use. I have several movies that are barley on the last disc. scaling down the size 200 megs using the mp3 & reducing the audio bitrate would make it for two discs. can you point me to a software proggie that would encode to VCD with seperate audio functions enabling me to scale down the bitrate? if it's too much to ask...i appreciate initial suggestion.

-JAG609

[johnbmx4christ]

now i am interested too cause i use tmpg enc to encode to vcd format and all my programs handle vids with mp3 audio but when i put it in tmpg and convert to vcd it will accept the mp3 audio but encodes it back to the mp2.i can tweak the bitrates on the vid or audio and with the videos i make it doesnt really mater but now you guys got me thinking and i would just like to try it too.

[Simon T]

TMPGEnc



That's normal because a NORMAL VCD is in mp2. If you make a VCD with mp3-audio you make a VCD but NOT a standard VCD and I most standalone players won't play your VCD because they don't have an mp3-codec you see. But your pc has an mp3-codec and that's the reason why they can be played on your pc.

If you are planning to buy a standaloneplayer in the future I suggest you don't experiment too much with the audio, most players won't play them (I think).
And if you're planning to stay watching your films on your pc, maybe you should think about it to create DivX instead of VCD.

Good luck!

[johnbmx4christ]

i have an apex it plays everything..it is also firmware upgraded...i am pretty much anti divx..i make everything in vcd format..i am aware that divx is better quality but i make my own vids and its cool to play them in a dvd player( i wish i could afford a dvd burner)..i would somehow like to just try to encode a vcd with mp3 audio but what program will do it?

[Simon T]

No Idea,

I know you can off course encode the audio to mp3 and encode the video. Burning with Nero should do it when you say no when the program asks you to encode to mp2.
But I don't know which program can multiplex your stuff. I'll think about it when I'm at home at my normal comuter with the programs and stuff.

[Arats]

Old stuff, but answer is (now) easy. In program TMPENC select and activate option mp3 converter *.exe. After that, load template unlock, (from templates/ extra/ unlock).

But you won't need it, even if your dvd player supports mp3, you are not going to hear your clip unless at computer.

I guess, you can try it better, only if your player supports divx or xvid.

But than, supported xvid gives already better quality than vcd! It could be only interesting if you make SVCD.

Generally, if you want to make non standard, at dvd player (probably) readable, smaller vcd, google out templates for MVCD or XVCD or KVCD. (burn always as "not standard vcd" or burn the *.mpg file to ISO cd.)

Obviously to purchase DVD burner, is another solution, to make "one disk" 2 hours clips, but no more fun!

[Arats]

i mean TPMGEnc