why wouldnt you use DVDx

[n34g]

Ive been using DVDx for a few months now and have successfully made various good VCD's without any problems. I see many people having problems converting DVD's to VCD's in this forum, so why doesnt everyone just use DVDx?

My next question (or first), eventhough i am satisfied with the quality using DVDx, what settings within DVDx actually effect the video quality? I cannot put the bitrate above 1150 because that is the maximum to be a VCD NTSC compliant VCD. So what other setting can I change so that I wont have blockiness on FAST or ACTION scenes within the movie. The closeups and slow scenes look great.

If I would try to create a DIVX, I could set it to 6000 and FAST MOTION DIVX and I get an excellent VCD with comparable low disk size. Is there a setting like this one when creating VCD's using DVDx. Would it help to use TMPG as a plug in setting, I only use the built in encoder within DVDx. (What difference does it make if I use the built in encoder within DVDx or use the TMPG encoder within DVDx plug in setting)...

Any help will be greatly appreciated....

[d-clone]

Re: why wouldnt you use DVDx

Originally posted by n34g
so why doesnt everyone just use DVDx?

I came in here a coulple of weeks ago, bc i had problems with quality. I tried many programs, including Flask, and some all-in-one program that i forget the name.
The nice guys here told me to use Gknot, and since theyre experts, I just used what the experts told me. Theyre experts after all, so the reason they dont use this or that program is bc they know whats best, and they recomend that.
So in all, I guess untill something better than GKnot comes out (prolly TheWefs next project), its pretty much what you should be using.

[Vaughn]

There is a reason why people don't use Gknot, it is the most complicated program out there to use. Experts use it because there experts, they know how to configure it. If you are a beginner I would never recommend Gknot, use DVDx or Flask or anything that is more entry level.

[Enchanter]

@Vaughn

GK is supposed to simplify the whole process of encoding. It takes care of your cropping and resizing (at the same time keeping the correct aspect ratio). It calculates a lot of values (can't be bothered to list them out though) that will aid you in the task. Have you used the program before? And did you have some sort of difficulty in using it? I admit I've been wondering how there can be such a wonder program existing for us all.

[d-clone]

I dont think GKnot is all that complicated, in fact, i would recomend it for a beginner.
I started with Flask, bc i went to google and typed "DVD Divx guide" and the 2 or 3 first hits all were guides on usiong flask.
After that i realized the quality was shit, so went to google again and typed "DVD Divx encoding forum software" and Divx-digest came up, i went into the forums, and I asked what the **** i should use. The first one to answer me was Enchanter telling me what i did wrong and he also told me to use GKnot. I did and I want to thank him for that revelation.
And since then, ive been hangin around the forum, and 90% of the questions are about using GKnot.
So not only is it the best out there, its also the one youll get the most support for
And I do recomend it to beginners bc its easy to use, Its not "click here to turn your DVD into a Divx File" And thank god its not like that, but i got the hang of it after my first encoding. Maybe its bc im experienced with using allot of different kinds of apps for all kinds of purposes. But even if you dont know that much about computers, its pretty straight forward if you read one of Doom9s guides

[Diegoll2k]

Do as I did. Begin by using flask and keep on reading forums. Once you find something you can't do in Flask that seriously bothers you (in my case, it was not being able to control the final filesize). If you think you know many technical words and their meaning (framerate, bicubic/bilinear, interlaced, NTSC/PAL, VBR, cropping, .IFO parsing, etc), only then I suggest you to move to GKnot. Otherwise it'll be very frustrating at first. And don't worry, everyone has to learn. Some people did it before, just that.

[n34g]

I wanna thank everybody in making my first post a good one. Thank you for all the responses. I will try flask instead of DVDx but will probably end up using GNOT. But, does Gnot also make VCD's, it looks like it only makes Divx. If it does not make VCD's, what is the best video quality program or way of making VCD's (Ive been using DVDx). Do you guys recommend me ripping the vob first or encode straight from the DVD player????

[hacker_on_fire]

vcd app = tmpgenc

[Diegoll2k]

vcd app = tmpgenc

totally agree with hacker_on_fire on this

[hacker_on_fire]

Originally posted by n34g
IDo you guys recommend me ripping the vob first or encode straight from the DVD player????

rip the vobs first as their is less likely to be errors in encoding. Also its better if u have a slower cpu.

[Enchanter]

Encoding straight from the DVD drive will wear out the drive faster and so it is always a good idea to rip the VOB contents first. In addition, not all programs can decrypt the macrovision protection found on most DVDs.

[n34g]

I was surprised by you telling me to use a slower CPU. Why is this?

Im taking you guys (the experts) advise. I tried using VSTRIP first to rip the DVD and then I used tmpgenc to encode to VCD. The quality is lots better than using DVDx (thankx). But, the movie was in french (I tried Mothman Prophecies). I first selected the proper VOBS for the movie, but then when I select the ISO for the movie, I see 3 audios in the bottom left. Usually 2 english and one french. How do I select which languages to use and which ones not to use? This might be a newbie question but I am a newbie to this. If anyone has an answer or a link, please let me know...thanx

[hacker_on_fire]

Originally posted by n34g
I was surprised by you telling me to use a slower CPU. Why is this?

what i meant was, that decoding straight off the dvd uses more of the cpu. for obvious reasons this is noto a good thing, therefore if u have a slow cpu it would be a better option cos it puts less strain on it.

[techno]

ur learning boy! lol

[hacker_on_fire]

very funny