How-to Guide for Super?

[Chewy]

that was an excellent post paglamon

very educational

[paglamon]

I am honoured by your appreciation .

[Chewy]

And what made it really good was I could understand it. That's the hard part, describing something to someone in a way that makes sense.

[paglamon]

If I can make myself really understand something , it is easy to make people like you(with greater minds) understand it.
But yes, DAR and PAR are such confusing domains in the digital video realm.Add to that PAL and NTSC specifications.

[DrinkOrDie]

Even I understood it and that's saying a lot. I tried another MKV with black bars and the same thing happened. From now on, I guess I should take a look at the math and see if the aspect doesn't add up. A non-square pixel encoding just never occurred to me. I'll take this new (to me) knowledge and put it to work.

Thanks very much paglamon!

[paglamon]

@DrinkOrDie

I still feel that mkv to avi is best done in VD. You can view the filtered output before you produce the final file.That way you can be sure of getting the correct display AR. If you want to avoid VD because of the necessity of .avs script, then try AVIDemux. It will probably open your X264 mkv files directly.

[DrinkOrDie]

My VdubMod says it has Matroska support. I can't understand why it doesn't open them directly. Perhaps it's the X264 encoding causing the issue. After all, I can't open these files using WMP 10. And Nero Showtime only plays the audio. I have to use WMPC or zoom player.

If you want to avoid VD...

I think anyone would want to avoid that! Sorry, I couldn't resist.

But seriously, I think I remember trying avisynth in the distant past and got so frustrated with it that I gave up and found another way. I tried it again recently and pretty much the same thing happened. I simply don't have weeks of free time to figure the dang thing out, and the documentation only served to overwhelm and confuse me further. It's not that I'm stupid or anything, I just don't get along with it. Dang near seems like it would be easier to re-write the virtualdub code to make it work.

I agree that this job would be best done with Vdub but Super did a fine job as far as the outcome goes. Just gotta fix that aspect, which is in progress now. I'll let you know how it turns out.

[DrinkOrDie]

Well now I'm really confused. Super won't encode the movie at all. It very quickly makes a file about 50kb and stops as if it were finished. Unusable.

[paglamon]

After all, I can't open these files using WMP 10.

Configure FFDSHOW to decode x264.

I think anyone would want to avoid that!

No one who is serious about working with avi.
Why are you not trying AVIDemux ? It does nearly everything that VD does and a bit more and, some say, does it better.

Super won't encode the movie at all

SUPER will do nothing consistently. If you fail with Mencoder, then try ffmpeg.If that fails too,then try with Directshow Decode selected. There is seldom an apparent reason behind what SUPER does and does not.

I think I remember trying avisynth in the distant past and got so frustrated with it that I gave up and found another way. I tried it again recently and pretty much the same thing happened.

See this:http://forum.videohelp.com/topic284288.html

[NightTran]

MKV files the best way to view straight is VLC, it is free, google and down load it

[DrinkOrDie]

From your file info:
Width : 832 pixels
Height : 416 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 2.35

Now 832/416 = 2 and not 2.35(as the Display Aspect Ratio).
This means that the file is using a non square pixel. Since you are converting to XviD avi(which uses a square pixel), you cannot keep the video resolution unchanged.
For a correct display at 2.35 DAR ,your XviD resolution will be something like 832 : 354(or 352 to make it divisible by 16).
So, in SUPER, under Video Scale Size you will have to put 832:352 and under Aspect select 1:1.

Your calculations were near perfect. Much better result. Aspect and picture quality are outstanding. I think we're done here. Just wanted to let you know it turned out fine. I'm sure I'll use this info you gave again in the future. TKS.

[DrinkOrDie]

OOOPS! here's an update. paglamon instructed me to use 1:1 aspect in Super. I wondered why, but didn't question that part. The output AVI plays perfectly in WMP and the aspect is fine. However, when I try to use the file as a source for my DVD, Nero totally screws up the aspect and shows this widescreen picture, crammed into a 1:1 box. This is totally unacceptable. I'll just have to live with the picture being slightly stretched vertically like it was the first time I tried it.

[Chewy]

have you tried just going directly to mpeg2

dvdflick?

[DrinkOrDie]

I admit, no I haven't. Believe me, I will try that along with several other progs I've heard mentioned. First thing's first, to see if I can get any use out of super.

I think perhaps the only thing that went wrong with paglamon's calculations is that choosing 1:1 aspect in Super is for forcing aspect despite the frame dimensions. Also, WMP ignores the forced aspect, so it played fine. Nero does not ignore the 1:1 forced aspect so it crams the video in a 1:1 box.

Thing is, resizing the output file to 832:352 automatically gives the output file an aspect ratio of 2.36:1. That's darn close to what it should be. There was no need to force 1:1.

I'm re doing the job without the forced 1:1 aspect. Then I'll see how Nero treats it.

[DrinkOrDie]

Configure FFDSHOW to decode x264

It won't do it. I can configure it for 263. no option for 264. The problem WMP is having is that it doesn't recognize the MKV extention. It's not that it can't find a codec. Even when I force it to play it, I get nothing. I'm not even worried about it. I really don't care. Zoom player does a fine job.