I see no increase in speed from adding 1G ram

[drfsupercenter]

the bus speed is 133, but you are using DoubleDataRate ram

which is 2 x 133 = 266

Ah IC. Thanks for the explaination! I was about ready to give a really nasty complaint call to Dell

[Dr Klovernutz]

ok problem solved, apparently the driver for my video card was incorrect (i went to dell found a "new" one although it is an older version than the one i had) either way no more error .
here is the read-out

Field Value
CPU Properties
CPU Type Intel Pentium 4
CPU Alias Northwood, A80532
CPU Stepping D1
Engineering Sample No
CPUID CPU Name Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz
CPUID Revision 00000F29h

CPU Speed
CPU Clock 2591.79 MHz (original: 2600 MHz)
CPU Multiplier 13.0x
CPU FSB 199.37 MHz (original: 200 MHz)
Memory Bus 199.37 MHz

CPU Cache
L1 Trace Cache 12K Instructions
L1 Data Cache 8 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (On-Die, ECC, ATC, Full-Speed)

Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID <DMI>
Motherboard Name Dell Dimension 4600

Chipset Properties
Motherboard Chipset Intel Springdale i865PE
Memory Timings 3-3-3-8 (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
PAT Disabled

SPD Memory Modules
DIMM1: Micron Tech. 16VDDF6464AY-40BG1 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM2: Elpida EBD25UC8AKFA-5B 256 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM3: Micron Tech. 16VDDF6464AY-40BG1 512 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)
DIMM4: Elpida EBD25UC8AKFA-5B 256 MB PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 MHz) (2.0-2-2-6 @ 133 MHz)

BIOS Properties
System BIOS Date 10/08/03
Video BIOS Date 06/24/03
DMI BIOS Version A06

Graphics Processor Properties
Video Adapter nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
GPU Code Name NV34 (AGP 8x 10DE / 0322, Rev A1)
GPU Clock 250 MHz
Memory Clock 202 MHz

[Chewy]

bottom line, leave them in(the 256 meg sticks) if your memory
benchs are higher, and you ever do anything that needs the extra
512 megs of ram.
otherwise take them out

with pat disabled memory is a lot more tolerant, but they match(the spd tables, which is rare) and that's what's important

with pat enabled you would see faster transcoding

[Dr Klovernutz]

bottom line, leave them in(the 256 meg sticks) if your memory
benchs are higher, and you ever do anything that needs the extra
512 megs of ram.
otherwise take them out

with pat disabled memory is a lot more tolerant, but they match(the spd tables, which is rare) and that's what's important

with pat enabled you would see faster transcoding

??my memory benchs are higher??
pat memory; what is that?
can i enable it...
i don't understand

this sucks, i added 1GIG of RAM and i see no significant encoding speed in DVDshrink!!

[Chewy]

??my memory benchs are higher??
pat memory; what is that?
can i enable it...
i don't understand

this sucks, i added 1GIG of RAM and i see no significant encoding speed in DVDshrink!!

does your memory bench higher with all sticks?

The faq's specifically state 512 megs is optimum, that's all I use, but then
I have to feed 3 or 4 computers.

And you have the option of keeping 2 or 3 photoshop windows open
and shrinking without running out of ram.

Gaming needs ram!

[Dr Klovernutz]

how do i tell if my memory benches higher with more sticks? where do i check these numbers at?

what FAQs?

[Chewy]

how do i tell if my memory benches higher with more sticks? where do i check these numbers at?

what FAQs?

everst has memory benchs, my beast does quite well

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45280

[Dr Klovernutz]

im lost
i looked at the link you listed, and i don't see how to compare my computer
and the benchmarks listed ineverest i see a bunch of computers listed how do i use this?

all i know is
its taking about 1 hour to encode casino full disc with AEC set to max sharp

is this bad what do i do

[Chewy]

"im lost
i looked at the link you listed, and i don't see how to compare my computer
and the benchmarks listed ineverest i see a bunch of computers listed how do i use this?"

hit the little refresh button at top(2 arrows) after selecting a bench
don't multitask!

btw I have an extra 512 megs(2x 256) of premium cas 2 memory I can't stick in any computer without slowing it down, running 4 sticks, except my 333
fsb ones.

I took a big chance with the beast and ordered 2 sticks of 500mghz ram,
I couldn't find it available in a pair. It worked.

[Chewy]

its taking about 1 hour to encode casino full disc with AEC set to max sharp

is this bad what do i do

well you're crippling the cpu by having to work it's butt off compressing extra junk, lose the crap and just reauthor main movie only, dump DA and AEC
for compression above 80%.

my memory reads
P4EE 3733 MHz MSI P4N Diamond nForce4-SLI-Intel Dual DDR2-667 7630 MB/s
P4EE 3733 MHz Dell Dimension XPS i925XE Dual DDR2-533 6920 MB
Athlon64 2475 MHz Asus A8V Deluxe K8T800Pro Dual PC4000 DDR 6402 MB/s
Pentium EE 840 3200 MHz Intel D955XBK i955X Dual DDR2-667 6100 MB/s
Athlon64 3500+ 2200 MHz MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum nForce3-Ultra Dual PC3200 DDR 6030 MB/s

[blutach]

Casino is a long movie. 1 hour sounds good to me. I'd put it on 2 disks or a DL though.

Regards

[Dr Klovernutz]

here are the results i came up with with everest
I ran all 3 memory bench tests with 3 different ram configurations.

1. 2 256 mod. in DIMM0 dual channel
read: 3732 MB/s
write 1154 MB/s
latency: 112.5

2. 2 512 mods in DIMM0 dual channel
read: 3815 MB/s
write: 1666 MB/s
latency: 111.2

3. 2 512 mods in DIMM0 2 256 mods in DIMM1 dual channels
read: 3708 MB/s
write: 1310 MB/s
latency 112.0

it said i was in dual channel each time and all of these numbers seem way too close for me to have any faith in this program (unless im doing it wrong) all i did was hit the refresh button and my computer stats appeared in bold. i did it severeal times both selecting a bench (highlighting it) and not. all results were in the same area (+- a few MB)

Also while i still had the 2 256 mods in i ran DVDshrink with casino on same settings as i did with 1.5G in my computer and the speed was the same approx 2.1MB/ sec encoding speed.
the main difference i noticed was before (with alll the RAM sticks in) i was able to run photoshop, 2+ browsers, and converrt a .wav > .flac with relative ease (minor slowdown) however with only the 2 256 mods in, i could barely open photoshop (took forever) as did opening firefox, the wav > flac went easily

So i am thinking:
1. I should leave all the modules in (everything i have used verifies I am in dual mode).
2. Accept that DVDShrink won't go much faster than it is already
3. Adding RAM did increase my ability to use my computer while encoding, although ecoding time will not be decreased.
4. Everest benchmark test is flawed

do you agree with these conclusions???

thanks
Dr K

[anonymez]

yes

[Chewy]

Well Dr, you started with a very good scientific methodology.
Your mem benches show what I was afaid of tho, a 20% performance
drop in mem writes.

You state a comparison between the 1.5 gig setup and the 512 one?
Where's the 1 gig?

Take this to the next level, you are doing an excellent job so far, start shrink transcoding, do a reasonable amount of
multitasking w/ photoshop and watch memory in use in task manager
and pages, the only way you know whether the dual 256 meg sticks
are helping at all. Note windows will always keep a little ram free
in reserve.

"3. Adding RAM did increase my ability to use my computer while encoding, although ecoding time will not be decreased."

yes, but that multitasking will prolong encoding with shrink which I thought was not in the scenario.

I seriously doubt everest is flawed, sisoft sandra has memory benches also.
There's a guy in germany who got me to using it, it was essential to my
overclocking the beast.

[Dr Klovernutz]

chewy

look at my last post i tested all 3 configurations

1. 2 256 (total 512)
2. 2 512 (total 1 gig)
3. 2 256 and 2 512 (total 1.5G)

since my last post i have begun running multitasks and watching in task manager
(with all 4 stick in my computer)

example i am running 4 Bit torrent windows and ran virus scan and a spyware at the same time
my CPU usage was 100% with avaliable memory of 5 gig (the lowest avalaible)
and i did an online scan drom dell at the same time which verified 32% avaliable memory.

like i said every application i have run verifies i am in dual mode (with 1.5) i just think DVDshrink is being limited by something other than my RAM.
lets face it I am running 1.5Gig in dual mode on a pentium 4 2.6, the only things in my taskbar are virus scan spyware scan and my remote mouse. so like I and anonymez say, accept that DVDshrink will not encode faster than 2.2MB/sec, BUT by adding the RAM i can now run multiple applications while encoding, whereas before while encodeing (unless i ran in background in low priority mode) my computer was pretty much useless. Plus i am sure that now while burning a DVD/ CD I can continued to use my computer normally, whereas before i would not use the computer during a burn. (i'll test this when have something to burn)

as for the dual channel mode controvesy, I am sure that if all 4 sticks had to match there would be more clearly stated facts to that, that is not a topic that would be kept vague. The only important fact i keep seeing regarding dual channel is that the pair on the same channel must be identical.

check out this PDF i found before i purchased my RAM which in addition to a tech over at crucial.com (where i bought my RAM) convinced me that i can have different sticks in matching pairs that would still produce dual channel.
Now all sources DO state that the mHz of all 4 sticks MUST be the same or the lower number will be used (all 4 of mine are 400/ 3200)

http://www.kingston.com/newtech/MKF_520DDRwhitepaper.pdf

specifically read page 8



what do you all think?