Layer Break using ImgBurn

[copyless]

I have a question Chewy, why were there less than 3000 samples?

[Chewy]

General Information
Drive: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A
Firmware: 1.Y6
Disc: DVD-R (TYG02)
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 121
Average: 17.59
Total: 29163
PI failures
Maximum: 7
Average: 0.14
Total: 229
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 1:37
Number of samples: 2096
Average scanning interval: 8.02 ECC
Glitches removed: 0
he's fudging and doing quick scans

[copyless]

That's what I thought. That also is the reason the PIF total is so low. Right?

[Chewy]

It helps a little, but sometimes not, with fewer samples each hit is weighted more. Quick scans miss narrow peaks, which gives a false quality, but if by chance it hits that single spike, the scan shows even worse.
Damn you ask hard questions. I am guesstimating a lot of this as I have not
crosschecked that many quick scans, just enough for me to know I trust them to discriminate crap from gold.

[dmanshead]

PGCedit does not work for me when trying to create ISO's. It just exits out without an error message and no error log written. I run a PIII 800 with Win ME, maybe thats way.

the computer i do the majority of my backups with is a PIII 733 running xp 512 ram. This one is faster but it keeps it free for me to play on!!!!what is the MID for those Fugi's?

[Kirby]

Fugi DVD+R DL speed test


General Information
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165P6S
Firmware: MS0C
Disc: DVD+R DL (RITEK D01)
Selected speed: 4 X
PI errors
Maximum: 410
Average: 28.21
Total: 9951
PI failures
Maximum: 25
Average: 0.47
Total: 175
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 0:38
Number of samples: 2856
Average scanning interval: 1.15 ECC
Glitches removed: 0


Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R DL
Book Type : DVD+R DL
Manufacturer: : Ritek
MID : RITEK D01 (001)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X
Blank Capacity : n/a
Extended Information
Layers : 2
Layer break : 3.94 GB
Write strategies : n/a
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 ED E2 4F 00 22 89 1F - ..2........O."..
0010 - 00 00 00 52 49 54 45 4B 00 00 00 44 30 31 01 40 - ...RITEK...D01.@
0020 - 25 25 37 0C 00 28 64 00 28 64 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 - %%7..(d.(d......
0030 - 02 01 01 20 00 20 1F 0C 0C 14 14 02 01 01 20 00 - ................

[Chewy]

Kirby,
Quick scans are not reliable enough for this kind of information.
It's customary to do an 8x full scan, post a png of that and a transfer test.
That will show the real story(or at least a glimpse of it).
We don't have anyone posting scans of DL burns over here,

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=65716

[blutach]

Surprised that PgcEdit is not making your ISO. You need to run through the setup.

See the guide - http://www.digital-digest.com/~bluta...pgcedit_v2.htm

Regards

[Kirby]

Thanks Chewy. I will run that test for you tonight. Are you sure you want the test run at 8X even if the disc is only rated for 2.4 - 4X??

Thanks blutach, I will check all my settings again and get back to you.

[Chewy]

scan at 8x with those 6th gen litey's(optional but faster than 4x)

no point in creating data disk or making other burns, just post full quality scan and transfer test(graphs not tables)

don't expect "perfect" results, you are looking at the burn under a magnifying glass

[r0lZ]

I run a PIII 800 with Win ME, maybe thats way.

PgcEdit doesn't support Win9X (95, 98, SE and ME) well for the burn function. Unfortunately, those operating systems are so bad that it is extremely difficult to control external programs launched by an application. In this case, I cannot redirect the output of mkisofs correctly, and I can't even kill it when it's needed, because of the lacks in the OS.
Furthermore, I don't have a Win9X system to test PgcEdit. Therefore, I can't improve the burn function easily. Sorry.
Win9X is (luckily) completely obsolete now. You should update to XP as soon as possible!

Anyway, the quality of the media is not related to this problem. If PgcEdit doesn't create the ISO, the burner is never used! In fact, you can (at least with WinNT/2K/XP, Linux and MacOSX) use the burn function, even if you don't have a burner, to create an ISO.

[Kirby]

Thanks, r0lZ.

Looks like I will be moving up to XP.

[Chewy]

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?postid=407684#post407684

would be nice to see these as some people might want a burner that can do
good burns on the ritek DL media

[Kirby]

Hi Chewy.

I will have the screen shots up soon as I can. I keep getting "Out of Memory Errors" after the scan test finishes when I try to get screen shots. Don't know why, I have enough memory in this machine. Anyway, I am getting a new P4 machine built with XP. I seem to be hitting limitations now. If I install XP on my P3, I was told that XP will just run Dog-Slow even if my current hardware is compatible with XP. Its going to be nice to be able to create 1 ISO file instead of many due to the FAT32 file limitation of Win ME. I will be able to install Daemon Tools as well since I hear the movie must be in 1 ISO file to be able to mount it to view it.

Regards,
Kirby.