SmartRipper ARccOS Vance43211

[setarip]

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Originally posted by setarip
Vance 43211 - "I have a movie that I burn that has that sony encryption, but I don't remember the name of it"

I don't mean to sound argumentative but, how did you determine that it had SONY ("ARccOS") copy protection, if you successfully used SmartRipper to simply rip the movie? SmartRipper is NOT capable of dealing with the "ARccOS" copy protection, should it be in the body of the "movie only" .VOBs.

"The vast majority" means MOST, not all, so what is the point of saying that you know of some DVDs that aren't DVD-9s?

We have effectively "hijacked" this thread - and shouldn't have.

Bye
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Vance 43211 - because that cycle redundancy error came up when I use dvd shrink to rip it. Everytime shrink don't work, I use my method.

you seem to get mad at my answers because you haven't heard of them and you want to debate them. they work.

we don't have to do it the same way for the same result. I have been in this dvd burning game way before you. I use to have countless guides over the internet.
I got tired of getting thousands of email, that I was getting everyday asking me how to burn dvds, so I got out of the game




Originally posted by setarip
"The vast majority" means MOST, not all, so what is the point of saying that you know of some DVDs that aren't DVD-9s?
Bye
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Vance 43211 - well because of this statement


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Originally posted by setarip
As I'm sure you're aware, the vast majority of commercial DVDs are double-layered, including "movie-only" filesets that by themselves exceed the 4.37Gb ("4.7GB") in size. Therefore, virtually all DVD rips require compressing.

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Vance 43211 - that last sentence is wrong, most of the dvds that I watch are dvd 5, also when you strip extra's as long as a high bitrate movie is 90 (lot of movies) minutes or less it will fit on a dvd5

[vance43211]

Again

Wow......

Get a life. you have too much time on your hands.

instead of debating me, get one of those ARccOS copy protected movie and do it my way. then post the results. you seem to have the time on your hands

Let's just say you are right (which you are not). WHO CARES ?

[setarip]

1) "you seem to get mad at my answers because you haven't heard of them and you want to debate them. they work."

No, I haven't gotten "mad". That's why I stated, "I don't mean to sound argumentative but...". I have no intention of debating, but I certainly do feel that it's important to discuss and clarify things, so that the less experienced posters here aren't misled into believing that they can now SIMPLY use SmartRipper to deal with "ARccOS"-protected DVDs.


2) "how did you determine that it had SONY ('ARccOS') copy protection, if you successfully used SmartRipper to simply rip the movie? SmartRipper is NOT capable of dealing with the 'ARccOS' copy protection, should it be in the body of the 'movie only' .VOBs."

You - "because that cycle redundancy error came up when I use dvd shrink to rip it. Everytime shrink don't work, I use my method."

In light of the fact that you've "been in the DVD burning game" for a while (And, perhaps, you shouldn't be too sure that you been at it "way before" I have), I'm sure you know that a CRC error is not proof-positive that a DVD is "ARccOS"-protected, as it can also be indicative of a dirty or physically damaged disc.

Conversely, "ARccOS"-protected discs are capable of generating errors other than CRC.

Perhaps most importantly, if you are in fact using SmartRipper to deal with "ARccOS"-protected DVDs, you are using it as only part of the solution. I'm fairly certain (and please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) that you're using SmartRipper to help IDENTIFY "ARccOS"-generated bad sectors - and then manually, or in another fashion, creating replacement sectors. if so, you should be apprised of the fact that the most recent incarnation of DVD Decrypter (v.3.54) has integrated this process, in a fully automated fashion, into its overall ripping procedure - with absolutely no user intervention required.

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Originally posted by setarip
As I'm sure you're aware, the vast majority of commercial DVDs are double-layered, including "movie-only" filesets that by themselves exceed the 4.37Gb ("4.7GB") in size. Therefore, virtually all DVD rips require compressing.

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Vance 43211 - that last sentence is wrong, most of the dvds that I watch are dvd 5, also when you strip extra's as long as a high bitrate movie is 90 (lot of movies) minutes or less it will fit on a dvd5

This is hardly worthy of further discussion by either of us but, the nature of most of the DVDs that YOU watch is in no way relevant to what the vast majority of commercial DVDs ARE...

[vance43211]

Originally posted by vance43211
Again

Wow......

Get a life. you have too much time on your hands.

instead of debating me, get one of those ARccOS copy protected movie and do it my way. then post the results. you seem to have the time on your hands

Let's just say you are right (which you are not). WHO CARES ?

you must have missed this

[vance43211]

Ok I see the problem. 21626 posts

Go outside and pay catch or something.

you would have heard of me if you had been in this game as long as you are insinuating.

[UncasMS]

i dont see any point in this kind of personal stuff

use the pm function, setarip, if you feel you have to discuss something

[cynthia]

Originally posted by UncasMS
use the pm function

That is hard to use if it's not enabled...

[UncasMS]

everyone can enable his OWN pm function

since it is not vance who has it disabled, it should have been no problem at all

if setarip decides to have his pm disabled, that's his business, not vance's problem and no good reason to find pm-like postings from setarip inside the forums

[cynthia]

True.

[admin]

I think setarip is just trying to prevent possible false information to be posted in this forum, to avoid confusing new users. This is commendable. Arguing about it over so many posts is probably not the best idea, and that goes with all posts (including some that originated here in this forum), not just this one.

People come to this forum to seek answers, and while an argument can be a good distraction (and good fun, if excessive swearing is part of it), it's not good for the forum in the long run.

instead of debating me, get one of those ARccOS copy protected movie and do it my way. then post the results.

setarip: This is actually a good suggestion. Sometimes logic isn't always the best way to prove a point. Good evidence is hard to ignore, and proving something that seems obvious is an important part of testing and research.

[admin]

Just wanted to add that it takes at least two people to have an argument, so no one and at the same time everyone is to blame for an argument starting and continuing.