Protesting one Statement

**spuddog** · 13 Apr 2007, 10:53 PM

Thank you for stating an opinion which many share.

**Chewy** · 13 Apr 2007, 11:03 PM

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?postid=521350#post521350

all we can do is be patient and wait and honor admin's wishes

**rago88** · 13 Apr 2007, 11:38 PM

Does no good to complain as the heads of state here have there reasons which I'm sure are quite legit and we are exspected to comply.

I have has posts pulled recently so you do have choices to either comply or use other forums.
I personally have discovered "ultimate dvdr forum"
which doesn't seem to be affected by the recent chain of events..

**vaioman** · 14 Apr 2007, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by techreactor

@All

I got this PM from one of the mods

Code:

You are not the first person to assert he has a "right to know". Put simply, you do not. This is no democracy; no FOI laws are around. It is a forum and it belongs to admin, not you.

To protest the above statement made by one of the mods, I will remain inactive on the Digital Digest forum for 1 week from today and this post is to make aware of this protest to every member here.

I will protest every such statement which goes against individual right to information no matter if its made here or in other places.

In fact this is the response I received for my statement on a public protest from the mod.

Code:

It will be removed. The fact the forum is open to the public is irrelevant. What admin says goes.

I am specifically protesting against this statement and not against any individual/the reinstatement/information on any application/tool/software.

So I am not expecting that this post will remain here for long but that will infact affirm my rightness only.

count me in bro.

i have bad experience here with the modz.

geeez! i hope admin is aware of the style of modz here.

**rago88** · 14 Apr 2007, 12:28 AM

In no way am I out to contribute a revolution here. lol
so my last word on the subject of what can be said and not said:

If this discusion gets locked then the writings on the wall and it's probably time to move on.
that's freedom of choice..

**LT. Columbo** · 14 Apr 2007, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by vaioman

count me in bro.

i have bad experience here with the modz.

geeez! i hope admin is aware of the style of modz here.

what's wrong with MY style?

**blutach** · 14 Apr 2007, 12:50 AM

This is nothing but divisive from someone who is out to cause trouble.

Regards

**UncasMS** · 14 Apr 2007, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by vaioman

count me in bro.

i have bad experience here with the modz.

geeez! i hope admin is aware of the style of modz here.

whenever people post anything anywhere i guess they want to be taken seriously, right?

as a consequence whatever ones posts should be of serious content or otherwise you cannot expect to be taken seriously when the content isnt serious or entirely true

since i personally try to take matters/users/postings/contents serious i must ask myself: what is vaioman talking about when saying he has/has had a bad experience with ME - and it must have been me among all other mods, since that's what your content says as you're yusing the plural with no exception at all.

so all in all we seem to be having a problem here indeed now as i must be either getting too old to remember what you're talking about i must have done to you or you're exaggerating here in a way i consider inappropriate

what do you suggest, vaioman, what can we do to solve this dilemma?

**admin** · 14 Apr 2007, 01:14 AM

I think this is an issue that has been brewing for some time now, long before recent events, and mainly about moderators and the rules they enforce (in particularly, rule 6).

I am sorry you all feel this way, but in no way should you blame the moderators because they are only acting on my behalf. I think everyone should cool down a bit and stop blaming each other, the mods are not the enemies here (if you should get mad at anyone, it should be me).

Every forum has their own set of rules and members are asked to obide by them, even if these rules sometime (or actually most of the times) go against freedom of speech. A forum for a sports team might ban overly positive comments about other teams, for example. An Xbox 360 forum might close post talking about how good PS3s are.

The main issue here is that I run this forum and despite what you might think, I'm ultimately responsible for all your posts, attachments and everything that is on this website. If someone posts something illegal like pirated movies, then I'm responsible for distributing pirated movies, not the person who posted it, since I own the server and I operate it and I allow it to happen by not removing it or having rules against it. This is why this forum has had the "no referring to pirated content rule" (rule 6) for a few years, mainly to get the MPAA off our backs (it's not like they haven't tried to take sections of this site down in the past). The servers are all located in the US, I'm located in Australia - both of these countries have very strong digital copyright laws, and not having a rule 6 is just looking for trouble.

The rules are here for a reason. Most of the times, you probably won't understand why they are needed, but *they are needed*. I'm not doing this just because I like power and control (okay, maybe a little bit

), but rules protect the forum (and also protect the people who post in them - you post a movie torrent here, we'll get into trouble and so will you), and mods I think unfairly gets the blame for enforcing them.

Unlike a "dictatorship", you are free to move to another forum if you find life too restrictive here. But you might find that the other forums are not that much better...

**Zero G** · 14 Apr 2007, 01:21 AM

I think the mods do a great job here. Nobody is being forced to read or post here. If someone cannot follow the rules, then maybe they should move on.

**LT. Columbo** · 14 Apr 2007, 01:46 AM

Tuco!!!!!

**uufta** · 14 Apr 2007, 01:56 AM

I hope all the smoke clears someday, and we all will be enlightened..

Wishful thinking I am sure, but I will hope for a return to the old days...pre-April Fools day

And a clarification of really whats acceptable to talk about, and what we can/cannot help people with and in my case "helping" might be a stretch.
At least what I have seen, the Mods have mostly been as fair as possible, many times to fair.

My 2 cents

**rago88** · 14 Apr 2007, 01:57 AM

WOW...
Now that's what I call a widfire discussion...
and spread so fast too..........

Very impressed on 3 levels:
1] that administrator chimed in and didn't lock this down.
2] I actually agree with most of what he said..
3] I didn't get a post pulled this week [although there's still time]

I quote:
in no way am I out to contribute a revolution here. lol
so my last word on the subject etc..

guess I wasn;t finished...

**Chewy** · 14 Apr 2007, 02:13 AM

The servers are all located in the US, I'm located in Australia - both of these countries have very strong digital copyright laws

this is an important point, thank you admin

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