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  • maxram
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    Junior Member
    • Apr 2003
    • 8

    vob to de-interlaced avi .....

    Hello All,

    I am very new to all this, so if my problem seems basic, it probably is, lol.

    I am using TMPGEnc to make MPEG1 files I want to use to burn to a SVCD. so far I have been able to use SmartRipper to make VOB's on my harddrive.

    the trouble comes when making a file TMPGEnc can use to make the mpeg1. I've been able to make AVI's with various programs, some TMPGEnc can use, some it can't. so far, interlacing has made for a bad finished product.

    so, is there a mod for TMPGEnc so it can handle VOB's ? that would be great.

    or could someone post a proven process to produce a de-interlaced AVI from VOB ?

    hope someone can help.

    thanks in advanced,

    Maxram
  • setarip
    Retired
    • Dec 2001
    • 24955

    #2
    "I am using TMPGEnc to make MPEG1 files I want to use to burn to a SVCD."

    You should be setting TMPGEnc to "MPEG2-SuperVideoCD" mode and NOT "MPEG1, if you want to create SVCD files...

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    • maxram
      Junior Member
      Junior Member
      • Apr 2003
      • 8

      #3
      thx setarip,

      I have a hack and am using that in TMPGEnc. what I need is a good way to use the VOB's on my harddrive and make them into de-interlaced AVI files to use in TMPGEnc.

      do you know of a mod to let TMPGEnc handle VOB's ?


      maxram

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      • UncasMS
        Super Moderator
        • Nov 2001
        • 9047

        #4
        do you know of a mod to let TMPGEnc handle VOB's
        thats quite simple:

        create a dvd2avi project file (d2v)

        that d2v file can be handled by tmpeg

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        • maxram
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2003
          • 8

          #5
          thx UncasMs,

          I've done that. it hasn't taken care of the de-interlacing for me. the end product of course is most important. also, except for one time, I can't use the audio using that method.

          although I used the same(smartripper) proggie to rip all the vob's, I'm wondering if the source dvd(several) makes a diff in the vob quality.

          don't know

          thanks again for your help,


          Maxram

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          • Enchanter
            Old member
            • Feb 2002
            • 5417

            #6
            I've done that. it hasn't taken care of the de-interlacing for me. the end product of course is most important. also, except for one time, I can't use the audio using that method.
            You can rip the audio of the VOB files as WAV and input the said WAV file into TMPGEnc as the audio source. Here is a quick run through of what you need to do:
            1. Rip audio to WAV using Graphedit/Vob2audio
            2. If you wish, you can amplify the volume of the audio using an audio editor, such as Cooledit

            To Create the required LST file, open a TXT file (renamed to LST) and input somethng like the following:
            x:\Folder\VTS_01_1.VOB
            x:\Folder\VTS_01_2.VOB
            x:\Folder\VTS_01_3.VOB
            x:\Folder\VTS_01_4.VOB
            .
            .
            .
            x:\Folder\VTS_01_x.VOB (The last VOB in the series)

            For extracting audio from one VOB file only, you don't need to go though the creation of a LST file.

            although I used the same(smartripper) proggie to rip all the vob's, I'm wondering if the source dvd(several) makes a diff in the vob quality.
            Not quite sure what you mean there, but assuming you are talking about whether different ripper programs will result in different quality for the ripped VOB files, the answer is: no. it does not make a difference.

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            • maxram
              Junior Member
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2003
              • 8

              #7
              thanks Enchanter,

              and thanks for all the help I've seen you give others.

              will the .wav sync o.k. with the d2v file ?

              i have split in TMPGEnc before with phase problems.

              any thoughts on the interlace problem I have.

              is there one program to produce high quality .AVI files from .VOB that are de-interlaced ?

              thanks again for your help,

              Maxram

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              • Enchanter
                Old member
                • Feb 2002
                • 5417

                #8
                will the .wav sync o.k. with the d2v file ?
                Assuming that the D2V and WAV files are extracted from the same set of VOB files (so that both have the same playlengths), sync problem probability is small.

                any thoughts on the interlace problem I have.
                Try one of the deinterlacers found in TMPGEnc or use Inverse Telecine (also available in TMPGEnc).

                is there one program to produce high quality .AVI files from .VOB that are de-interlaced ?
                DVX and GordianKnot will satisfy when it comes to DVD to AVI conversions.

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                • UncasMS
                  Super Moderator
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 9047

                  #9
                  since you want vcd/svcd as your final format, converting to avi isnt a good idea at all - waste of time and quality!

                  use dvd2svcd to transcode your vobs into vcd or svcd.

                  you wont regret using that tool

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                  • maxram
                    Junior Member
                    Junior Member
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Enchanter,

                    hello again.

                    de-interlacing in TMPGEnc, I've looked and found nothing like that. if it's also known as something else, please educate me. always willing to learn.

                    I am going to try GordianKnot next. hope it works, wish me luck. I've tried so many programs in the last few days, why not another.

                    have tried DVX, didn't like it much. virtualdub seemed to work fine, final product had the interlace problem.

                    thanks again for your help,

                    Maxram

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                    • maxram
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                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 8

                      #11
                      hello UncasMS,


                      o.k. willing to learn. no extra steps is always good. will I be able to use the VOB's I already ripped to my harddrive, or do you suggest letting the program rip direct from the DVD's ?

                      I will go out and get dvd2svcd and give it a try.

                      the reason I was using TMPGEnc was I have a hack to produce a large resolution file to then burn via Nero to make the SVCD. saw a show that recommended it. trouble started when TMPGEnc would not handle .VOB's. they didn't mention that in the show, lol.

                      thank you very much for your advice,

                      Maxram

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                      • UncasMS
                        Super Moderator
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 9047

                        #12
                        in most cases dvd2svcd should work fine with data already ripped to your hdd.

                        dvd2svcd uses either tmpeg or cce as transcoder and will give you excellent quality as those two transcoders are sort of the best available.

                        take a look at the homepage of dvd2svcd:
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                        in the conversion tab of dvd2svcd you should find the deinterlacing options, which i think will make use of decomb - not sure about that though.
                        Last edited by UncasMS; 26 Apr 2003, 10:24 AM.

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                        • setarip
                          Retired
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 24955

                          #13
                          "de-interlacing in TMPGEnc, I've looked and found nothing like that."

                          Look amongst the multitude of options under the "Advanced" tab...

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                          • maxram
                            Junior Member
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 8

                            #14
                            SUCCESS !!!

                            Hello All and Thanks,

                            All the advice got me going in the right direction. After some tinkering and a few trials I was able to get a nice high quality mpeg1 file from .vob's on my harddrive. I'm now ready to burn VCD's to play on any DVD drive. Each holds about an hour of video with stero sound. All done with free software and free tips. Below I will out-line the process I use. I'm sure there are other methods to do the same, but this is working great for me, so I will share my process.

                            My goal was to rip DVD files from my collection and put all my favorite music videos on one disc to play in my stand alone DVD player. SUCCESS !!!

                            Ripping to harddrive:
                            I used SmartRipper, easy to use and free.

                            Converting to AVI file:

                            I used VirtualDub, also easy to use and free.
                            after dubbing, pick "save as" and choose the
                            XviD mpeg-4 codec compression in config.

                            Now you can edit if needed:

                            I used MSMovieMaker, free with XP or free
                            download on web. Save as DV-AVI(NTSC)

                            Last step before burning:

                            I found a hack on-line to use with TMPGEnc to produce the high quality mpeg1 files needed for burning. It allows you to save at 720x480 resolution(same as DVD's). The hack is available at techtv.com, the article also explains a few tips to produce a CDR that will play in most DVD players. Read it !

                            That's it, I now have all my favorite music vids and movie shorts on one disc. Very satisfing !!!

                            Again, thanks to all for your help,

                            Maxram


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                            • setarip
                              Retired
                              • Dec 2001
                              • 24955

                              #15
                              "It allows you to save at 720x480 resolution(same as DVD's)."

                              Just so you know - it's great that your standalone player supports XVCD (non-compliant resolution) playback. Most standalone players don't...

                              You can attain similar quality results (due to television low resolution) using the "Chinese Video Disk" ("CVD") resolution of 352x480...

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