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  • musicsmosthated
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • May 2003
    • 48

    problems with gordian knot

    I've been using this program for about a month and it started to screw up yesterday. when I go to encode the video I get an error message that says that the avs file isn't valid or can't be read or something of that sort. then I get a virtualdubmod message saying that it can't find the *_Movie.avi file to add the audio to. any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • I26
    Gold Member
    Gold Member
    • Jun 2002
    • 106

    #2
    Re: problems with gordian knot

    Originally posted by musicsmosthated
    I've been using this program for about a month and it started to screw up yesterday. when I go to encode the video I get an error message that says that the avs file isn't valid or can't be read or something of that sort. then I get a virtualdubmod message saying that it can't find the *_Movie.avi file to add the audio to. any help would be greatly appreciated.
    This may not be the solution but perhaps uninstalling it completely(i even get rid of the registry entries when i do it) and reinstalling might solve the problem. GK, over time, does strange things on me and, after a fresh install, all goes well.

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    • musicsmosthated
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      • May 2003
      • 48

      #3
      tried it, doesn't work. that was the first thing I thought of. well, I guess it's time to look for a new encoder. I was getting kind of sick of the time it took with gknot anyway. as a temporary solution, I'm using dr. divx, but it's only a 15 day trial and I don't have the money to pay for it. is there any programs out there similar to dr. divx only freeware?

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      • SKD_Tech
        Lord of Digital Video
        Lord of Digital Video
        • Jan 2003
        • 1512

        #4
        DVX is a GordianKnot TYPE program but better try her out..

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        • I26
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          Gold Member
          • Jun 2002
          • 106

          #5
          Originally posted by musicsmosthated
          tried it, doesn't work. that was the first thing I thought of. well, I guess it's time to look for a new encoder. I was getting kind of sick of the time it took with gknot anyway. as a temporary solution, I'm using dr. divx, but it's only a 15 day trial and I don't have the money to pay for it. is there any programs out there similar to dr. divx only freeware?
          I was once pointed in the direction of the 3ivX codec using FlaskMPEG.........excellent results and easy to use.

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          • Enchanter
            Old member
            • Feb 2002
            • 5417

            #6
            Re: problems with gordian knot

            Open the AVS file generated by GK in Notepad.

            Copy and Paste the contents here.

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            • Enchanter
              Old member
              • Feb 2002
              • 5417

              #7
              Originally posted by I26
              I was once pointed in the direction of the 3ivX codec using FlaskMPEG.........excellent results and easy to use.
              2 wrongs do not make one right. Both may be easier to use, but quality they do not deliver.

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              • I26
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                Gold Member
                • Jun 2002
                • 106

                #8
                Talk about the AVI file container, and the Divx/Xvid codecs that are most commonly found in AVI files


                Well actually i don't know if your 100% correct. I once followed setarips advice as in the link above and it turned out pretty damn good. Oh well......its matter of choice.

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                • Enchanter
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                  • Feb 2002
                  • 5417

                  #9
                  There are many inputs in that thread and the most of us, including khp and I, are against the quality-based encoding scheme that 3IVX uses and is limited to (pun intended). One wonders whether you listened to any of us or whether you had your ears to one person only.

                  I did a few tests on the 3IVX codec some time later and I did not like any of the results at all. To be more specific, I did the tests using the DivX, XviD and 3IVX codecs at the same time and made comparisons between them. 3IVX-compressed videos returned the least satisfying quality from the competition. The only good thing I found from the codec is speed. The rest 3IVX does not have: 1) Quality, 2) Features & 3) Configurability.

                  In addition, 3IVX does not decode the other MPEG-4 compression formats properly and/or well. FFDShow remained the better and more sensible choice for decoding purposes.

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                  • SKD_Tech
                    Lord of Digital Video
                    Lord of Digital Video
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 1512

                    #10
                    DivX and Xvid.. IMHO They are the only way to go

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                    • musicsmosthated
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                      Junior Member
                      • May 2003
                      • 48

                      #11
                      #
                      # Created with Gordian Knot
                      #
                      # http://gknot.doom9.org
                      #
                      # PLUGINS
                      LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\mpeg2dec3.dll")
                      #LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\decomb.dll")
                      #LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\Convolution3d.dl l")
                      #LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\FluxSmooth.dll")
                      #LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\TomsMoComp.dll")
                      #LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\VSFilter.dll")
                      #LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\SimpleResize.dll ")
                      #
                      # SOURCE
                      mpeg2source("D:\changes.d2v")
                      #
                      # TRIM
                      #trim(startframe,endframe)
                      #
                      # IVTC
                      #Telecide(guide=1).Decimate(5)
                      # or use
                      #IVTC(44,11,95)
                      #GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)
                      #
                      # DEINTERLACING (1)
                      #FieldDeinterlace()
                      #FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
                      #TomsMoComp(1,5,1)
                      #
                      # CROPPING
                      crop(16,0,462,562)
                      #
                      # DEINTERLACING (2)
                      #SeparateFields().SelectEven()
                      # or maybe
                      #Bob().SelectEven()
                      # or maybe
                      #GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
                      #
                      #
                      # SUBTITLES
                      #VobSub("FileName")
                      #
                      # RESIZING
                      LanczosResize(645,470)
                      #
                      # DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
                      # 1) little noise
                      #Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
                      #mergechroma(blur(1.3))
                      #FluxSmooth(5,7)
                      #
                      # 2) medium noise
                      #Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
                      #Convolution3d("moviehq")
                      #FluxSmooth(7,7)
                      #
                      # 3) heavy noise
                      #Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
                      #Convolution3d("movielq")
                      #FluxSmooth(10,15)
                      #
                      # BORDERS
                      #AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)
                      #
                      # COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
                      # !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
                      #SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
                      #
                      # FOOL CCEnc
                      #ResampleAudio(44100)


                      that's what's in the avs file.

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                      • Enchanter
                        Old member
                        • Feb 2002
                        • 5417

                        #12
                        Re: problems with gordian knot

                        There does not seem anything wrong with your AVS script, except perhaps the resizing part (where the resized values are not factors of 16). It is unlikely this part is causing the error message, but it will not hurt to correct the values and see whether the problem goes away.

                        If that does not help, reinstall Avisynth and make sure that your version of mpeg2dec3.dll is compatible with the Avisynth version you are using (i.e. You can't use mpeg2dec3.dll for Avisynth 2.0x with Avisynth 2.5 and vice versa).

                        Edit:
                        LanczosResize(645,470) #change to LanczosResize(640,464) or LanczosResize(640,480)

                        I also noticed that you had the right-side cropped massively (242 pixels as opposed to just 16 pixels on the left-side). Are you aware of this?
                        Last edited by Enchanter; 20 Jun 2003, 05:03 PM.

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                        • musicsmosthated
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2003
                          • 48

                          #13
                          the cropping might be where my problem is. that seems to be pretty much the entire width of the original video that would be cropped. hmmm....

                          EDIT: the link for dvx is broken. does anybody have another link for it?

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                          • UncasMS
                            Super Moderator
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 9047

                            #14
                            which link are you referring to?

                            this is the official site:


                            for a guide, click on my anigif

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                            • Enchanter
                              Old member
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 5417

                              #15
                              Originally posted by musicsmosthated
                              that seems to be pretty much the entire width of the original video that would be cropped. hmmm....
                              What is the original width before cropping? If you were working on a DVD source, it would be 720. Otherwise, ...

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