MPEG2 problems with NERO7

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  • qv_
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12

    MPEG2 problems with NERO7

    I try to make DVD out of my old video8 tape.
    I have uppgrade the NERO7 today, use Swedish meny on NERO, it did not help me.

    I use hauppauge PRV350 to make MPEG2 files. 12MBit CBR. Works with no problems.

    I buy NERO 7 premium reloded and try to trim my MPEG2 files to right time.
    but the quality is very bad after NERO have save the file (se picture)

    I try to use mpeg2cut2 insted and it work with no problem.

    I used the files from mpeg2cut2 and make the DVD with NERO.

    Same **** quality is no good. (titels work, DVD work, sound works, video quality )

    Is there a program to make VOB from MPEG2 files?

    /Jan
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  • qv_
    Junior Member
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12

    #2
    I have now try to use the DVD-Lab pro and it have the same resault.

    I made the compile with DVD-lab pro and use NERO to burn the mini-dvd (CD)

    If I use NERO to look at the MPEG2 file from Hauppauge it's looking good.
    Then after puting the file on a DVD with NERO or DVD-Lab it's no good.

    What's going wrong?
    /Jan

    ps. the only thing DVD-Lab did not like with my Hauppauge files was the audio. It was Layer 1 so DVD-Lab convert it to Layer 2 ds.
    Last edited by qv_; 31 Dec 2006, 11:01 AM.

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    • atifsh
      Lord of Digital Video
      Lord of Digital Video
      • May 2003
      • 1534

      #3
      for one ur existing file is not dvd compliant, it exceeds the maximum allowed 9800 for dvd mpeg2.

      so nero is re-encoding it and ur getting problems, try TMPGEnc to re-encode, tmpgenc will auto find ur files field order so u wont get problems.
      Seems like as soon you buy somehing, v. 2 comes out 1.5 times as fast!..!

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      • photo_angel2004
        Queen of Digital Video
        Queen of Digital Video
        • Jan 2004
        • 3558

        #4
        Here is a good link for you to start with:

        Talk about the TMPGEnc line of software, including TMPGEnc Express, MPEG Editor and TMPGEnc DVD Author






        IMGburn ** ** Nero 6.6.0.18 **Intelli Type Pro 6.1 **

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        • qv_
          Junior Member
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 12

          #5
          Try and try again

          I have DL TMPGenc and m2v.vfp this two programs i have instaled ( I think)
          I don't understand everything when installing m2v so I just press OK.

          When runing the TMPGenc it is making the outputfile, I see the first frame of the movie and then CRASCH program ends.

          If I try to change start och stop frame I get error.

          The I DL VirutalDubMod and here is the screenshoot

          /Jan
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          • MikeyBK
            Digital Video Maniac
            • Feb 2006
            • 1131

            #6
            qv,

            There are a couple of good programs you can also try.
            First is VideoReDo, for your mpeg2 editing needs. Comes with a free 30 day trial. Fastest and best quality Mpeg editing program I've tried.

            Also, if Nero Vision Express was not acceptable to you when converting those mpeg2 files to VOB files, you can also try 1ClickDVDMovie or ConvertXToDVD to convert those files. Both these programs come with free trials so you can test before you decide to purchase. They both did great jobs for me...I chose to get 1ClickDVDMovie.
            MBK

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            • qv_
              Junior Member
              Junior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 12

              #7
              still testing

              Originally Posted by MikeyBK
              First is VideoReDo,
              you can also try 1ClickDVDMovie or ConvertXToDVD to convert those files.
              I have now try them all. They all do the same as NERO.

              If the camera was shaky (vibration) the video quality is realy bad (look att photo att #1) but allso when the peoples legs are moving the get "shadow".

              /Jan

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              • MikeyBK
                Digital Video Maniac
                • Feb 2006
                • 1131

                #8
                Then I would venture a guess that the original capture onto the video8 tape was poor to begin with. Trying to capture a poor source at a high bitrate will not improve the quality of the video. And further editing and converting will most definitely deteriorate the video further.
                MBK

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                Patriot eXtreme Performance (2 x 1GB) DDR2 SDRAM
                Seagate Barracuda(Perpendicular Recording) 320GB SATA 3.0Gb

                *SAMSUNG 18X LightScribe SATA SH-S183L DVD±R
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                • qv_
                  Junior Member
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Originally Posted by MikeyBK
                  Then I would venture a guess that the original capture onto the video8 tape was poor to begin with. Trying to capture a poor source at a high bitrate will not improve the quality of the video. And further editing and converting will most definitely deteriorate the video further.
                  The original is as good as it gets with a old "handycam" from canon using it a cold winterday!

                  I only use a tape one time and it's the same camera i use when i capture it with PRV350.

                  If someone with better knowledge have some time left in it's life I put two files on my WEB hotel.

                  http://www.malartorp.com/video/V_test.MPG (10 sec, 15 Meg from PVR350)
                  http://www.malartorp.com/video/Nero.zip (same via Nero - DVD)

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                  • MikeyBK
                    Digital Video Maniac
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 1131

                    #10
                    Well what can I tell you?

                    I can capture video from 'VHS tapes' using the WinTV PVR 150 at the highest bitrate, as you do (but it will never achieve that 12 MB/S CBR you ask for anyways), Then edit it with VideoReDo, and then convert it with either 1ClickDVDMovie or Nero, and they come out better than you using your 'handycam'...So what does that tell you??

                    Don't think you blaming members as supposedly not giving you enough info is the problem here... Laters and good luck, you'll need it I think.
                    MBK

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                    *SAMSUNG 18X LightScribe SATA SH-S183L DVD±R
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                    • NightTran
                      King of Digital Video
                      King of Digital Video
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 4224

                      #11
                      something wrong with your nero there is no sound at all after your nero this is the same one I made from yours

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                      • qv_
                        Junior Member
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 12

                        #12
                        First. If a have "blaming members" I am very sorry. Writing in English is not that easy and i only know like 1000 word.

                        MikyBk: "but it will never achieve that 12 MB/S CBR you ask for anyways"
                        in the software I use it was a option. I first try 12 MB/S but I did not like the output so I try "12 MB/S CBR" and the it was OK. The software VirutalDubMod say it's 12000 KB/S (if it's tru or not I don't know).

                        "......and they come out better than you using your 'handycam'...So what does that tell you??"
                        1. That in the end I can have DVD from my old VIDEO8 tape.
                        2. That I don't know what is going wrong.
                        3. My knowhow in this subject is not enough.

                        Nr 1 is good I like tha one
                        Nr 2 and 3 well I have try to serch for info here in Sweden but with no success. I have allso send one tape from my travel to Borneo to a "shop"? that transform VIDEO8 tape to DVD (€55) so I have a referens what is good or bad. This tape have not yet come back to me.

                        /Jan

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                        • qv_
                          Junior Member
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 12

                          #13
                          Originally Posted by NightTran
                          something wrong with your nero there is no sound at all after your nero this is the same one I made from yours

                          http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ABQM3C2L
                          Thanks Night Tran. I check this one when I come home from work.

                          /Jan

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                          • qv_
                            Junior Member
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 12

                            #14
                            YEaa

                            Found it on http://www.shspvr.com/smf/index.php?topic=10355.0

                            "It seems the Nero reencoding process is mixing up the so called "Field Order" of the video.
                            On interlaced (CRT) displays all movement will then have severe jitter.
                            (possible you can adjust the settings in Nero for the Field order?)
                            Most TV-cards, including the PVR150 , captures video with "Top Field First""

                            That made the trick. Don't look good on preview but works like it should on the DVD.

                            Next problem is sound, but I try first now that I know that pictures is good.

                            /Jan

                            Crash and more crach. Nero don't like to transcoding my mini DVD.
                            I must clean up my 20 days old XP sp2 install, and install NERO again.
                            I hope that helps
                            Last edited by qv_; 4 Jan 2007, 07:55 AM. Reason: info

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                            • qv_
                              Junior Member
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 12

                              #15
                              sound problem

                              I now have 7 files form VASALOPPET (ski contest 90 km)
                              They all work in NERO show 3 and they are all small (30 sec to 3 minutes)

                              When I transcode them (to make a mini DVD) one get no sound and one "hang upp" the program.

                              If I use the "good 5" files to make my mini DVD it works in NERO show. There is no problem in NERO show, meny and sound and piqture is OK. But not on my Philips DVD player. Piqture quality is good but moving slowly and sound is corrupted.

                              I have try to make a mini DVD on all NERO sound settings but the only one that is workning with NERO show is "stereo". (and non is working on the Philips)

                              The problem is that NERO did a DVD +r with good sound and bad piqture in my first try 3 days back in time? My computer is working good (on non video programs) it's slow (P3 1.0 GHz 512 Mbit RAM)

                              So I must soon by more disk to my burner.


                              /Jan

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